Message from @ShinyPants

Discord ID: 511362827177689099


2018-11-12 02:04:35 UTC  

It's happening

2018-11-12 02:05:04 UTC  

Red-flag is literally communist gun grabbing via ratting out neighbours and family without reason or evidence

2018-11-12 02:05:12 UTC  

No court dates

2018-11-12 02:05:17 UTC  

No notices

2018-11-12 02:05:31 UTC  

Just unconstitutional illegal searches and seizures

2018-11-12 02:05:47 UTC  

You don’t even have to know who you’re flagging

2018-11-12 02:06:16 UTC  

Fucking kill any government agent attempting to illegally search and seize your property without a valid court order

2018-11-12 02:06:23 UTC  

It's literally your right

2018-11-12 02:06:27 UTC  

I said that in front of cops lmao

2018-11-12 02:06:37 UTC  

gun owners are now guilty until proven innocent

2018-11-12 02:06:40 UTC  

Yup

2018-11-12 02:07:01 UTC  

And if you're not informed that said court order is being levied against you, it's also unconstitutional IIRC

2018-11-12 02:07:03 UTC  

I told a room full of CJ people to get bent and that that violates civil rights

2018-11-12 02:07:11 UTC  

@RoflTank its unconstitutional as fuck

2018-11-12 02:07:32 UTC  

Like you cannot be legally charged or anything without being present in said court to argue your side.

2018-11-12 02:07:43 UTC  

Otherwise it's absolutely illegal

2018-11-12 02:08:50 UTC  

They need to have legally gathered evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt the need of the court to issue a search and seizure order to the police, and in order to do that you should need to be present to defend yourself and provide reasonable doubt.

2018-11-12 02:09:16 UTC  

Otherwise is it actually a legally valid court? I think not.

2018-11-12 02:10:14 UTC  

They can gather evidence and bring it before a judge, and the judge can serve a warrant without your knowledge

2018-11-12 02:10:29 UTC  

This is no warrant service

2018-11-12 02:13:18 UTC  

All I know is they’re gonna have to Dallas bomb robot us

2018-11-12 02:21:51 UTC  

@RoflTank please have that discussion with law enforcement with a gun pointed your way.

2018-11-12 02:22:11 UTC  

The cops can do whatever the fuck they want

2018-11-12 02:22:30 UTC  

Whether what they do holds up in court later is a completely different story.

2018-11-12 02:41:01 UTC  

And who knows what will happen to your property while it's in lockup

2018-11-12 02:41:44 UTC  

Y'know, that's why you don't open the door for police until they state their intentions

2018-11-12 02:42:11 UTC  

You know I did that once

2018-11-12 02:42:27 UTC  

Turns out they were lookin. For the previous occupants of the home

2018-11-12 02:42:34 UTC  

And if they don't leave when told to return with a valid court order, you can defend yourself and your property against illegal search and seizure.

2018-11-12 02:43:25 UTC  

You are legally allowed to fire on police under certain circumstances? Are you sure

2018-11-12 02:43:48 UTC  

Man, you act like it’s so simple

2018-11-12 02:44:04 UTC  

This shit doesn’t always happen when you’re at your house

2018-11-12 02:44:40 UTC  

What do they do if I have a safe? To they take the safe or break into it?

2018-11-12 02:44:43 UTC  

And if you decide to shoot at the cops, you can rest assured that there will be plenty more there at the speed of motorola

2018-11-12 02:45:22 UTC  

@Nic386 they call a locksmith to open the safe. I don’t think you can be compelled to open it.

2018-11-12 02:45:38 UTC  

Not unless they have a court order yeah

2018-11-12 02:46:12 UTC  

Also, you guys forget this whole probable cause thing

2018-11-12 02:46:35 UTC  

Which is infinitely flexible in law enforcement’s favor

2018-11-12 02:46:52 UTC  

Are they constituting a red flag report as probable cause?

2018-11-12 02:47:10 UTC  

🤔 I wonder.

2018-11-12 02:47:24 UTC  

I’d say yes.