Message from @Tony_Swann

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2020-02-28 02:17:43 UTC  

but it's all just _ENVIRONMENT_

2020-02-28 02:18:02 UTC  

Yes, those are literally environmental factors

2020-02-28 02:18:17 UTC  

Weird how a whole group of people that seems more violent, does more poorly in school, gets lower scores on every metric of success has kids that also mirror those traits

2020-02-28 02:18:31 UTC  

Except height

2020-02-28 02:18:37 UTC  

IQ isn't environmental

2020-02-28 02:18:40 UTC  

that's just false

2020-02-28 02:18:53 UTC  

There's plenty of research on this...

2020-02-28 02:19:20 UTC  

you cannot increase your IQ outside of the Verbal and Mathematics portions of the test

2020-02-28 02:19:21 UTC  

of course "there are environmental factors", but MOST of the difference is in the genetic potential dn no amount of education or environment will change that.

2020-02-28 02:19:28 UTC  

and even then it's not "permanent"

2020-02-28 02:20:04 UTC  

Even if you want to concede their are envirnonmental factors

2020-02-28 02:20:16 UTC  

it really doesn't make sense to me what libertarian lenaing people like him expect us to do

2020-02-28 02:20:23 UTC  

so you want us to come into the black community and fix it?

2020-02-28 02:20:35 UTC  

even if it's environmental to a total degree

2020-02-28 02:20:38 UTC  

what's the difference

2020-02-28 02:20:48 UTC  

It not being permanent is more proof it's environmental

2020-02-28 02:20:56 UTC  

You going to come in as the white savior and fix all these communities?

2020-02-28 02:21:05 UTC  

>it not being permanent

2020-02-28 02:21:09 UTC  

what not being permanent?

2020-02-28 02:21:15 UTC  

The difference is that ideas aren't innate

2020-02-28 02:21:21 UTC  

He acts like white have a responsibility to save the blacks from their own toxic culture.

2020-02-28 02:21:24 UTC  

wow you're autistic about this

2020-02-28 02:21:43 UTC  

it literally doesn't matter what ideas they have, they will tend on the whole towards a certain set of behaviors

2020-02-28 02:21:55 UTC  

@Tony_Swann no, I act as if treating someone as anything other than an individual is idiotic

2020-02-28 02:22:02 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 dude, the INCREASE in IQ from education is what isn't permanent. they revert back to the lower IQ after they leave collage.

2020-02-28 02:22:19 UTC  

<@!593608499926269958> but it's not really an increase in G

2020-02-28 02:22:27 UTC  

and their spatial portion of the test basically doesn't chaneg

2020-02-28 02:22:33 UTC  

only the Math and Verbal section

2020-02-28 02:22:46 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 people ARE. NOT. PURELY. INDIVIDUALS. I know thats your fantasy but you are dead wrong

2020-02-28 02:23:00 UTC  

especially not 80 IQ "individuals"

2020-02-28 02:23:07 UTC  

^

2020-02-28 02:23:33 UTC  

weird AMerican blacks with more white ancestry have a higer IQ than African blacks

2020-02-28 02:23:41 UTC  

But I bet that's just the magic nation of the US

2020-02-28 02:23:48 UTC  

they get more stimulation in their street gangs

2020-02-28 02:24:00 UTC  

so instead of a 70's IQ, they've got an 80's IQ

2020-02-28 02:24:11 UTC  

Does this guy believe in evolution?

2020-02-28 02:24:24 UTC  

He doesn't believe in Race

2020-02-28 02:24:34 UTC  

and wants to go back that people can have their own ideas

2020-02-28 02:25:01 UTC  

and the difference between ideas and actions... as if it makes any difference when we're talking about group behavioral differences, but whatever

2020-02-28 02:25:02 UTC  

If so how can he possibly believe that all races have the same IQ potential or even the same innate behaviours at the same IQ level if they evolved in isolation?

2020-02-28 02:25:20 UTC  

Well, this started because I brought up IQ