of course "there are environmental factors", but MOST of the difference is in the genetic potential dn no amount of education or environment will change that.

and even then it's not "permanent"

Even if you want to concede their are envirnonmental factors

it really doesn't make sense to me what libertarian lenaing people like him expect us to do

so you want us to come into the black community and fix it?

even if it's environmental to a total degree

what's the difference

It not being permanent is more proof it's environmental

You going to come in as the white savior and fix all these communities?

>it not being permanent

what not being permanent?

The difference is that ideas aren't innate

He acts like white have a responsibility to save the blacks from their own toxic culture.

wow you're autistic about this

it literally doesn't matter what ideas they have, they will tend on the whole towards a certain set of behaviors

@Tony_Swann no, I act as if treating someone as anything other than an individual is idiotic

@randomNPCno3 dude, the INCREASE in IQ from education is what isn't permanent. they revert back to the lower IQ after they leave collage.

<@!593608499926269958> but it's not really an increase in G

and their spatial portion of the test basically doesn't chaneg

only the Math and Verbal section

@randomNPCno3 people ARE. NOT. PURELY. INDIVIDUALS. I know thats your fantasy but you are dead wrong

especially not 80 IQ "individuals"

^

weird AMerican blacks with more white ancestry have a higer IQ than African blacks

But I bet that's just the magic nation of the US

they get more stimulation in their street gangs

so instead of a 70's IQ, they've got an 80's IQ

Does this guy believe in evolution?

He doesn't believe in Race

and wants to go back that people can have their own ideas

and the difference between ideas and actions... as if it makes any difference when we're talking about group behavioral differences, but whatever

If so how can he possibly believe that all races have the same IQ potential or even the same innate behaviours at the same IQ level if they evolved in isolation?

Well, this started because I brought up IQ

because he was denying that any group or person could have a propensity for a certain belief or behavior

specifically in reference to politics

IQ is so important to dispelling the myths of race egalitarianism.

My point of bringing up IQ, was that if you believe in IQ, then you should have no problem understanding how people can have innate behavioral predispositions...

I believe in race, thanks again for putting words in my mouth, I don't believe it makes it impossible to change someone's mind, and yes I believe in evolution

predispositions that might make them say, be more tribal and less trusting of outsiders, or say be more likely to want order and conformity....

You say you believe in race, but every specific thing you say about it you say is, "muh enviornment"

@randomNPCno3 operating politically like changing the behaviour of an entire race is possible or desirable is insane.