Message from @Mercury

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2020-03-09 05:25:55 UTC  

anybody watch Daughter of Albion?

2020-03-09 05:31:51 UTC  

@us_o_w/e she's great

2020-03-09 05:38:24 UTC  

I showed her to my normie conservative friend.

2020-03-09 05:38:27 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B6qYQbvJWY When the Wuhan Flu kills most of us, who is Blonde going to force to be the cheese maker in her glorious ~~commune~~ village?

2020-03-09 08:19:46 UTC  

Mmm toasted beanwater.

2020-03-09 08:19:48 UTC  

2020-03-09 10:15:12 UTC  

a thought, what if people used the "right to privacy" argument to bolster 2a
surely if it can apply to abortion it could apply to anything

2020-03-09 11:11:44 UTC  

I wouldn't be surprised if they do already use it against gun registries.

2020-03-09 11:12:23 UTC  

Lots of people will be saying, "That's the first step toward confiscation," but I bet a lot of folks will make it about privacy, too.

2020-03-09 15:18:52 UTC  

"UwU Han Flu" has now replaced the racist "Wuhan flu", so now you can creep people out, and get yelled at for a different reason.

2020-03-09 16:03:35 UTC  

Privacy isn't a right

2020-03-09 16:05:15 UTC  

Sure. But at the end of the day, you have to play by Clown World's rules.

2020-03-09 16:06:00 UTC  

So if they say privacy is a right, why not use that claim to protect firearm ownership?

2020-03-09 16:06:08 UTC  

>Clownworld
>rules

2020-03-09 16:06:17 UTC  

Good point.

2020-03-09 16:07:00 UTC  

And I believe we already do to some extent. Florida bans registration outright in the state constitution

2020-03-09 16:08:13 UTC  

Yeah. But ultimately the strategy should be to throw whatever arguments we can against the wall and see what sticks.

2020-03-09 16:08:38 UTC  

Dishonest arguments that win are better than honest ones that lose.

2020-03-09 16:09:18 UTC  

You will regret that precedence.

2020-03-09 16:10:55 UTC  

Why's that, TxDeluxe?

2020-03-09 16:14:11 UTC  

It seems like the left is using all sorts of sneaky underhanded bullshit tactics like lying to everyone's faces and saying, "Oh we don't want to *ban* guns outright, you're crazy!"

What's wrong with responding to them in kind?

2020-03-09 16:14:27 UTC  

If they want to play fair, they're welcome to start any time. Until then, the right is playing dirty.

2020-03-09 16:14:31 UTC  

Or it should be, at least.

2020-03-09 16:16:33 UTC  

@TxDeluxe
I regret losing more.

2020-03-09 16:17:28 UTC  

Politics is not a game of honesty

2020-03-09 16:18:33 UTC  

> muh principles and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

2020-03-09 16:19:24 UTC  

There's no reward to "losing honorably"

2020-03-09 16:19:42 UTC  

Would be nice if it was. I'm all for a cease-fire when it comes to the sophistry.
But I hate the idea of lying down and taking it while the other side is allowed to use every dirty trick in the book.
Take their behavior and hold them to it.

2020-03-09 16:21:01 UTC  

I am not arguing the desire to fight fire with fire politically. I am arguing legally. Dilution of Constitutional rights is what allows progressive actions like that. Furthering the dilution for a short-term gain will only help them when they have the power to implement their legislation later. Legal precedence can not be reversed, or at least not easily.

2020-03-09 16:21:56 UTC  

There's a difference between principles and making an idol of the process

2020-03-09 16:22:54 UTC  

I flatter myself calling myself a fairly principled person, but I have zero issue violating norms to protect my people and my rights

2020-03-09 16:23:04 UTC  

Oh, no, just, when you're fighting for gun rights, tell them it's all about privacy. Don't admit you don't actually believe in 'the right to privacy'.

It's kinda like when you're at the dealership buying a car. Never admit something that would be disadventageous to you.

But still, when it comes time to vote on whether to actually create a 'right to privacy' and fuck up the constitutional rights or whatever, argue against that.

If they point out your contradiction, then whatever. Politicians lie.

2020-03-09 16:26:15 UTC  

The left does the same shit all the time.

2020-03-09 16:27:07 UTC  

Like I said though I'm 100% for a cease-fire.

2020-03-09 16:29:08 UTC  

Sure, we all are. But pretending like that's a possibility is being blind to the State of Affairs that have existed for the last 50 years

2020-03-09 16:29:54 UTC  

Yeah it's pretty shit.

2020-03-09 16:30:08 UTC  

Then I agree @Mercury. I would just be very sober about opening up that can of worms, because by that precedent they could extend rights to privacy onto immigration easily. Or the bureaucrats use it as a blanket to protect ALL of their information, because they are also "private citizens".

2020-03-09 16:30:15 UTC  

If your principles keep losing, get better principles.

2020-03-09 16:30:42 UTC  

@Unironic Ohio Supremecist really? Majority rules principles???

2020-03-09 16:30:54 UTC  

I'd argue the state of affairs that have existed since the dawn of democracy. People have always tried to slime their way through it, rather than just being honest and having a fair dialog.

2020-03-09 16:31:17 UTC  

The problem isn't principles. The problem is the right accepts the lies that are politicians tell us to enable them to stab Us in the back