Message from @Mercury
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anybody watch Daughter of Albion?
I showed her to my normie conservative friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B6qYQbvJWY When the Wuhan Flu kills most of us, who is Blonde going to force to be the cheese maker in her glorious ~~commune~~ village?
Mmm toasted beanwater.
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a thought, what if people used the "right to privacy" argument to bolster 2a
surely if it can apply to abortion it could apply to anything
I wouldn't be surprised if they do already use it against gun registries.
Lots of people will be saying, "That's the first step toward confiscation," but I bet a lot of folks will make it about privacy, too.
"UwU Han Flu" has now replaced the racist "Wuhan flu", so now you can creep people out, and get yelled at for a different reason.
Privacy isn't a right
Sure. But at the end of the day, you have to play by Clown World's rules.
So if they say privacy is a right, why not use that claim to protect firearm ownership?
>Clownworld
>rules
Good point.
And I believe we already do to some extent. Florida bans registration outright in the state constitution
Yeah. But ultimately the strategy should be to throw whatever arguments we can against the wall and see what sticks.
Dishonest arguments that win are better than honest ones that lose.
You will regret that precedence.
Why's that, TxDeluxe?
It seems like the left is using all sorts of sneaky underhanded bullshit tactics like lying to everyone's faces and saying, "Oh we don't want to *ban* guns outright, you're crazy!"
What's wrong with responding to them in kind?
If they want to play fair, they're welcome to start any time. Until then, the right is playing dirty.
Or it should be, at least.
@TxDeluxe
I regret losing more.
Politics is not a game of honesty
> muh principles and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
There's no reward to "losing honorably"
Would be nice if it was. I'm all for a cease-fire when it comes to the sophistry.
But I hate the idea of lying down and taking it while the other side is allowed to use every dirty trick in the book.
Take their behavior and hold them to it.
I am not arguing the desire to fight fire with fire politically. I am arguing legally. Dilution of Constitutional rights is what allows progressive actions like that. Furthering the dilution for a short-term gain will only help them when they have the power to implement their legislation later. Legal precedence can not be reversed, or at least not easily.
There's a difference between principles and making an idol of the process
I flatter myself calling myself a fairly principled person, but I have zero issue violating norms to protect my people and my rights
Oh, no, just, when you're fighting for gun rights, tell them it's all about privacy. Don't admit you don't actually believe in 'the right to privacy'.
It's kinda like when you're at the dealership buying a car. Never admit something that would be disadventageous to you.
But still, when it comes time to vote on whether to actually create a 'right to privacy' and fuck up the constitutional rights or whatever, argue against that.
If they point out your contradiction, then whatever. Politicians lie.
The left does the same shit all the time.
Like I said though I'm 100% for a cease-fire.
Sure, we all are. But pretending like that's a possibility is being blind to the State of Affairs that have existed for the last 50 years
Yeah it's pretty shit.
Then I agree @Mercury. I would just be very sober about opening up that can of worms, because by that precedent they could extend rights to privacy onto immigration easily. Or the bureaucrats use it as a blanket to protect ALL of their information, because they are also "private citizens".
If your principles keep losing, get better principles.
@Unironic Ohio Supremecist really? Majority rules principles???
I'd argue the state of affairs that have existed since the dawn of democracy. People have always tried to slime their way through it, rather than just being honest and having a fair dialog.
The problem isn't principles. The problem is the right accepts the lies that are politicians tell us to enable them to stab Us in the back