Message from @somniostatic
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yeah i figured that since most of your ilk argue that, i'd get it out of the way first
are you citing that to prove immirgation is not a net benefit to our economy?
lol most of my ilk
> yeah i figured that since most of your ilk argue that, i'd get it out of the way first
@BIGMAN
i think that immigrant-dominated jobs are usually that way because corporations are able to keep wages inhumanely low in those fields by doing so, not that americans wouldn't do them
and i don't think that argument factors into whether or not it's a net benefit to our economy
As for immigration and wages, what you often see in both the USA and UK are foreign workers that are able to operate at a much lower cost (subsequently outcompeting native workers) as they are also willing to lower their living standards in order to both optimise profit margins and outcompete the native workers in terms of price
the most common way that this is done is by squatting in an abandoned house, sharing houses and housing costs, etc etc
^ exactly
massive problem in the uk
but i think that's immoral, and based on exploitation
not because they are coming in and filling a need
that's why we need regulatory protections for workers like that
In terms of higher skilled immigration, it selfishly removes the much needed professional workforce from third world countries that crucially needs them, and instead uses them to prop up our own bloated government welfare programs (which i think are a good thing btw we just need to reorganise them) - it also displaces high skilled native workers from the workforce naturally
immigrants don't choose to come in and keep their costs low, they are forced to work those jobs
We tried to regulate that but it does nothing
that entire approach failed in the UK
because both the immigrants and employers don't care about regulations
the immigrants are happy working cheaper and living with lower standards since it's still better than their home country
the businesses are happy because they've got cheap labour and fatter profit margins
not that they just didn't work
we've had all sorts of regulations ever since the 50s when we introduced Windrush immigration
the idea itself just simply doesn't work
if the UK is anything like the USA, any regulations put in place are basically ignored
and may as well never had them
not to mention that it doesn't address the overarching wage depreciation caused by an outright greater supply of labour
the UK is notorious for having overregulation
so is the USA
im not a libertarian or anything but we have really strict regulations here
no you don't get it lol
but that ends up being BS when you actually look into it
I'm not rlly sure what you're trying to say here
i'm sure there might be some validity to what ur saying in the context of america
but here in the UK things are considerably different
yeah i'm talking USA, i don't know jack about UK
and probably irrelevant comparisons
I think it's still a good thing to compare
although i know there was also a study that showed UK immigration was similar economically
but, you know, "ree studies"
i already gave you a study earlier