Message from @BIGMAN

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2020-02-28 16:34:09 UTC  

but i think that's immoral, and based on exploitation

2020-02-28 16:34:14 UTC  

not because they are coming in and filling a need

2020-02-28 16:34:21 UTC  

that's why we need regulatory protections for workers like that

2020-02-28 16:35:03 UTC  

In terms of higher skilled immigration, it selfishly removes the much needed professional workforce from third world countries that crucially needs them, and instead uses them to prop up our own bloated government welfare programs (which i think are a good thing btw we just need to reorganise them) - it also displaces high skilled native workers from the workforce naturally

2020-02-28 16:35:09 UTC  

immigrants don't choose to come in and keep their costs low, they are forced to work those jobs

2020-02-28 16:35:19 UTC  

We tried to regulate that but it does nothing

2020-02-28 16:35:22 UTC  

that entire approach failed in the UK

2020-02-28 16:35:30 UTC  

because both the immigrants and employers don't care about regulations

2020-02-28 16:35:45 UTC  

the immigrants are happy working cheaper and living with lower standards since it's still better than their home country

2020-02-28 16:35:55 UTC  

the businesses are happy because they've got cheap labour and fatter profit margins

2020-02-28 16:36:07 UTC  

that sounds like regulations were just failed to be enforced though

2020-02-28 16:36:10 UTC  

not that they just didn't work

2020-02-28 16:36:29 UTC  

we've had all sorts of regulations ever since the 50s when we introduced Windrush immigration

2020-02-28 16:36:34 UTC  

the idea itself just simply doesn't work

2020-02-28 16:36:52 UTC  

if the UK is anything like the USA, any regulations put in place are basically ignored

2020-02-28 16:36:58 UTC  

and may as well never had them

2020-02-28 16:36:59 UTC  

not to mention that it doesn't address the overarching wage depreciation caused by an outright greater supply of labour

2020-02-28 16:37:29 UTC  

the UK is notorious for having overregulation

2020-02-28 16:37:35 UTC  

so is the USA

2020-02-28 16:37:36 UTC  

im not a libertarian or anything but we have really strict regulations here

2020-02-28 16:37:39 UTC  

no you don't get it lol

2020-02-28 16:37:40 UTC  

but that ends up being BS when you actually look into it

2020-02-28 16:38:29 UTC  

I'm not rlly sure what you're trying to say here

2020-02-28 16:38:39 UTC  

i'm sure there might be some validity to what ur saying in the context of america

2020-02-28 16:38:44 UTC  

but here in the UK things are considerably different

2020-02-28 16:38:48 UTC  

yeah i'm talking USA, i don't know jack about UK

2020-02-28 16:38:55 UTC  

and probably irrelevant comparisons

2020-02-28 16:39:07 UTC  

I think it's still a good thing to compare

2020-02-28 16:39:12 UTC  

although i know there was also a study that showed UK immigration was similar economically

2020-02-28 16:39:20 UTC  

but, you know, "ree studies"

2020-02-28 16:39:28 UTC  

i already gave you a study earlier

2020-02-28 16:39:33 UTC  

you haven't showed me anything

2020-02-28 16:39:44 UTC  

again just goes to show how much of a caricature you have of people before you speak to them

2020-02-28 16:39:50 UTC  

lol

2020-02-28 16:39:55 UTC  

what happened to that 'good faith' character you were playing earlier on the stream?

2020-02-28 16:40:16 UTC  

because it seems to me that you can't distinguish where and where studies are not relevant

2020-02-28 16:40:18 UTC  

you mean as i was called a faggot or nigger like, 500 times a second?

2020-02-28 16:40:23 UTC  

or... retarded, or autistic

2020-02-28 16:40:28 UTC  

or a "lonely old virgin"

2020-02-28 16:40:36 UTC  

ye good obfuscation there bud

2020-02-28 16:40:42 UTC  

you came in here and said u wanted to hear us out and etc