most trump voters in 2016 were fairly left wing economically too iirc

that's economic

but that's not what he's campaigning on now

or has been

because he can't

i mean he kinda tries to

like he's downplaying coronavirus because of its market effects

can't remember where i got this from

yeah but remember who trump ran against

the most reviled woman in America, on both sides

thats a sexist disgusting comment, yuck

and not a populist like Bernie

bernie is uncharismatic as fuck bro

Populism is the way to go to defeat trump

that's not really what populism means?

but i mean, he is charismatic

look at his support

maybe if it was obama speaking bernie's talking points

It's hard to be a populist when you have no charisma and are making the same mistakes other socialists have made abroad

Corbyn ran in a similar way to bernie and got absolutely swamped by the tory party here in the UK

Obama won because he ran on a lot of the shit that Bernie is running on

and once obama got elected, he betrayed his grassroots

not allowing gay marriage?

i agree

obama aint black

and that's part of why 2012 turnout was lower

obama is irish

Barry O'bama

so far, turnout has been higher in some regards than in 2008

Barini Obuomo

bernie doesnt pull in any moderates and pushes away basic bitch democrats

There arent a lot of moderates anymore tho are there

tru

boomer dems, sans the hippies, are as conditioned to hating socialism as the republicans are

that's not reallllly true

the same %s of that generation are comparable to feelings about it with current gens

i guarantee dems would call bernie vs trump a election of 2 russian plants

maybe not the word itself, "socialism", but the policies themselves

they already did

Establishment Dems are just corporatists