Message from @somniostatic
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it was immigration and nationalism which won him the election
he promised a return of manufacturing, he ran on things like TPP
the trade stuff had an impact
yeah
most trump voters in 2016 were fairly left wing economically too iirc
that's economic
but that's not what he's campaigning on now
or has been
because he can't
i mean he kinda tries to
like he's downplaying coronavirus because of its market effects
can't remember where i got this from
yeah but remember who trump ran against
the most reviled woman in America, on both sides
thats a sexist disgusting comment, yuck
and not a populist like Bernie
bernie is uncharismatic as fuck bro
Populism is the way to go to defeat trump
that's not really what populism means?
look at his support
maybe if it was obama speaking bernie's talking points
It's hard to be a populist when you have no charisma and are making the same mistakes other socialists have made abroad
Corbyn ran in a similar way to bernie and got absolutely swamped by the tory party here in the UK
Obama won because he ran on a lot of the shit that Bernie is running on
and once obama got elected, he betrayed his grassroots
not allowing gay marriage?
i agree
obama aint black
and that's part of why 2012 turnout was lower
obama is irish
Barry O'bama
so far, turnout has been higher in some regards than in 2008
Barini Obuomo
bernie doesnt pull in any moderates and pushes away basic bitch democrats
There arent a lot of moderates anymore tho are there
tru
boomer dems, sans the hippies, are as conditioned to hating socialism as the republicans are
that's not reallllly true
the same %s of that generation are comparable to feelings about it with current gens