Message from @Leiro レイロ
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marxism is a derivative of socialism
and liberals aren't communists.
liberals are globalists.
same thing
and what does globalism mean?
International capitalism
globalists r communists
nope
globalists change their agenda whoever it suits them.
why do you think they oppress nationalists?
freer movement of capital, as well as unregulated open door policies of Muslim economic refugees flooding into Europe.
these Muslim refugees directly benefit from the welfare state, so it's in their interests to support the agenda of globalists.
globalists only care about themselves and their money
obviously
but you haven't replied on the why socialism hasnt worked.
I gave examples on why it didn't work.
it assumes that the industrial base built by capitalism is present.
in order for socialism to develop.
because socialism has never worked and u have not answered my ? on where has socailism worked
@desperado I have already told you why socialism hasnt worked.
it depends on the industrial base of capitalism to work.
these socialist states were agrarian, and were neither industralized nor were developed before the revolutions happens
then why r u a socialist
because inevitably, and historically speaking, the transition to socialism is inevitable, whether it takes decades or centuries.
when I was a capitalist, I was still a critic of it.
then what happened to Venezuela, once a thriving economy that is now a shithole
more than 70% of industry and capital is still privately owned in Venezuela.
so how is it socialist?
First of all, I want to know your definition of socialism.
The USA will never be a socialistic country and socialism is communism
I have no say on your first statement, and yes, communism is socialism but mostly based on marxian economics, moderate socialists like me do not believe in marxism or materialism.
and I want your definition of socialism.
u keep contradicting urself
how so?
explain.
socialism is communism
communism is based on Marxist and materialist principles. Socialism is based on neither of those principles.
it's clear you don't have a solid idea what socialism is.
first u say socialism is not communism the u agree it is
yes and no, communism happens when socialism transitions to communism, so it's socialist in that way. However, most Marxist principles do not apply under socialism.