did you vote?

In cali it is taxation without representation...

don't get me started

And have been for that last 40 years. i started working when I was 12 years old.

ok great, why?

Because the lower courts don't back what the upper courts are says is law

yeah with Cali looking at taking half the fed tax cut for state taxes for corps....lots of relocation will be happening ...and already has been

@BMcA. That makes you a "god-parent" to how many illegal children?

Yeah especially the 9th cirsut.....that better be changing

I say all supporters of illegal immigration should provide housing and solid tax paying jobs for them....

AAA I think so too, as we are seeing more of the movie industry moving this way as they cant make that kind of money in Cali any more.

lets see how that affects the laws

Yep...Toyota moved as did the carls jr. corporate owners over the last 3 to 4 years ...and more will go

LOL, OMG Mr. Mark probably in the thousands.

my greater point is that the problem we are in is because of people voting and paying taxes

and thinking that either of those two actions results in anything positive for americans

when people try to remind me to vote, i try to remind them that the way things are is because of voters

VOTERS DID THIS TO US

Thank you, @loislane https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/8035wt/what_im_going_to_tell_you_is_serious_and_will/

@chumba. Yes, but how many voters had the right to vote?

I don't know Chumba...while in theory yes but the politicians were very nefarious in their covering up their true objectives...especially for those that are programed

yeah well the truth is if you vote then you are the cause of the problem

Yeah well a very very high percentage of voters are unimformed so yes there is obviously some truth to that

@Sweet Tea just read that!

@chumba. You've got to vote. Othetwise Hrc would be POTUS! Yikes.

lol

that is what the paradigm has you believe

i withdrew my consent, that pretty much clarifies my political choice

no vote need be cast for that

Vote with guns (cast your bullet).

"government derives its just authority from the consent of the goverened"

@Eureka provided by @loislane ❤

Almost posted that in the Q area. Teamwork is awesome around here. I have more subs to add too but I’ll add that to the volunteer area.

The federal Government needs to be weakened

eliminated

That is a little tougher...but think about it

if the US Fed is like the EU...maybe we could eliminate the majority of it and have a treaty of States

is anyone here familiar with the creditor/debtor theory of the structure of american government

it explains why we have a federal government

and when you consider that the constitution was enacted 11 years after the Articles of Confederation were in place, you can see how the crown was able to re-group and come up with a new way to enslave the colonies