Message from @【IVSTINIANVS】
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im aware
the empire during the mid 3rd century proved
that one large empire could not be sustained
and the split prolonged the empire
so arguably, the best thing that happened to the empire was the split,
as far as i'm concerned, the empire truly fell in 1453
with the fall of Constantinople
most historians will tell you this
regardless of their reasons and regardless of the fact it worked, it cannot change the fact that the split weakened the Empire...
sure they had a better control of the army as the east and west only had to focus on half the army.... however say a country from the east attacked.... now you hve two command structures trying to mingle in the east to defend, its not efficient, and combat effectiveness goes down
the split army strat only works when each are able to focus on their own land
They were still the same empire, but they were governed differently
it's like saying
each state in the US is its own country
They were one state, the two emperors were co emperors
yep, and the military will be weakend, because now you have 50 heads of states and 50 independent armies trying to coordinate a battle plan
it really doesnt work as well as you seem to think
Except it was 2, and the 2 armies were literally the reason the Empire survived
It didn;t weaken the empire, its the reason the empire survived
had the empire kept
one army
so yes arguably
if you consider them seperate entities they got weaker
but they werent
and thats what im trying to say
they did get weaker, hence the west fell quite soon after relatively speaking, the east survived, but that does that matter when half of the empire died so quickly compared to the other half
I think we're disagreeing over the wording
and not the actual facts
I'm saying it was a single entity, so it did not get weaker
you're considering them seperate entities
what i'm saying is
i am not actually, im considering the command structure as seperate.... as they were
Yes, but they were both technically
part of the same state
so they should be seen as one
It was still the Roman empire
same state, so what? they still had two independent armies
but with a different administrative heads
one being based in the east, so he can guard and govern the eastern provinces
and one in the west, to do the same
but both of them were heads of the Roman state