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works or not, it still doesnt change the fact that they are essentially a more closer alliance, rather then a full empire, the Empire of Rome that the world at the time feared effectively halved in power as far as the rest of the world was concerned
I'd have to disagree
They were seen as Co-emperors who held equal power
same as an actual alliance though
They never saw themselves as the east or west
They saw themselves as one entity
keyword
We just say east and west
*they*
like we say byzantium
the rest of the world saw two smaller empires
The empire had to split to survive
im aware
the empire during the mid 3rd century proved
that one large empire could not be sustained
and the split prolonged the empire
so arguably, the best thing that happened to the empire was the split,
as far as i'm concerned, the empire truly fell in 1453
with the fall of Constantinople
most historians will tell you this
regardless of their reasons and regardless of the fact it worked, it cannot change the fact that the split weakened the Empire...
sure they had a better control of the army as the east and west only had to focus on half the army.... however say a country from the east attacked.... now you hve two command structures trying to mingle in the east to defend, its not efficient, and combat effectiveness goes down
the split army strat only works when each are able to focus on their own land
They were still the same empire, but they were governed differently
it's like saying
each state in the US is its own country
They were one state, the two emperors were co emperors
yep, and the military will be weakend, because now you have 50 heads of states and 50 independent armies trying to coordinate a battle plan
it really doesnt work as well as you seem to think
Except it was 2, and the 2 armies were literally the reason the Empire survived
It didn;t weaken the empire, its the reason the empire survived
had the empire kept
one army
look at what happened in the 3rd century crisis, it would have just repeated itself
so yes arguably
if you consider them seperate entities they got weaker
but they werent
and thats what im trying to say
they did get weaker, hence the west fell quite soon after relatively speaking, the east survived, but that does that matter when half of the empire died so quickly compared to the other half
I think we're disagreeing over the wording
and not the actual facts
I'm saying it was a single entity, so it did not get weaker