Message from @Muhammad Al-Tajir

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2018-11-14 19:58:42 UTC  

What part of "Before Abraham was I AM" does your pea brain not understand

2018-11-14 19:59:18 UTC  

A. Jesus existed before Abraham.
B.“I am” is the name of God in the Bible (Exodus 3:14)
 
Lets analyze both the reasons.
 
A.
 
If Jesus (pbuh) existed before Abraham that does not make him God in anyway because even angels existed before Abraham. They existed before the world was created. Does it make them God? No ! Jesus (pbuh) was with God before Abraham (pbuh) , but in what form? Was he like a handsome young man moving around and then God reduced him to a small baby and put him in his mother’s womb? No No ! It means in the knowledge of God we all were there. Jeremiah is said to have been made a Prophet before his birth. The Bible says
 
“Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” (Jeremiah 1:5)
 
In Islam, we share somewhat a similar belief. The Quran says
 
“When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful":(Quran 7:172)

2018-11-14 20:00:04 UTC  

The Christians claim that “I am” is the name of God in the Bible in Exodus 3:14. The verse reads
 
“And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM:and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” (Exodus 3:14)
 
“Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, God ( I am.)”
 
We have no objection in agreeing that God was there before Abraham.
 
If Jesus was claiming divinity here. He should have at least remained consistent in the usage of words. In Exodus 3:14 the word for “I am” is “haw-yaw’ Where as the word in John 8:58 is “Ego Eimi”
 
This is sufficient to prove that in John 8:58 Jesus did not claim divinity

2018-11-14 20:00:31 UTC  

Here Philip is asking Jesus (pbuh) to show him God. The Bible says
 
“No one has ever seen God” (John 1:18)

2018-11-14 20:05:29 UTC  

Really epic how you didn't even post the complete verse in John 1:18

2018-11-14 20:05:30 UTC  

HAAHHA

2018-11-14 20:05:35 UTC  

Islamic dishonesty in action

2018-11-14 23:12:37 UTC  

Is there's a shitposting channel?

2018-11-14 23:24:39 UTC  

thats the secret
every channel is the shitposting channel

2018-11-14 23:24:39 UTC  

:^)

2018-11-14 23:58:57 UTC  

There is <#395406409329672205>

2018-11-15 15:24:42 UTC  

Heil

2018-11-16 21:26:37 UTC  
2018-11-16 22:21:51 UTC  

voting ends on the 23rd

2018-11-17 02:18:31 UTC  

https://www.strawpoll.me/16859829 Voting ends on the 23rd

2018-11-18 10:20:15 UTC  

egg btw

welcome back nigger

2018-11-18 10:23:36 UTC  

sup nigger

2018-11-18 10:23:50 UTC  
2018-11-18 10:23:56 UTC  

ive been lately hearing word coptic

yes

2018-11-18 10:24:00 UTC  

what is it exactly

2018-11-18 10:24:03 UTC  

language?

2018-11-18 10:24:06 UTC  

sect?

also ethnicity

2018-11-18 10:24:12 UTC  

ah

native egyptians

2018-11-18 10:24:16 UTC  

semitic?

2018-11-18 10:24:17 UTC  

oh

no

hamatic

so basically

2018-11-18 10:24:25 UTC  

ye

the Muslims in Egypt are Copts who mixed with Arabs,Turks and Europeans

Coptic just means Egyptian basically, the language is from the Hellenic period

when the Greeks came to Egypt, it's Demotic with some Greek

so basically the descendants of the ancient Egyptians

Copts from the 2nd century

Copts now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506818522756939777/513661842602852362/copts3.PNG