>All these fags whining about German and USA trees

Try being a Brit tree player bitches

And having to needle the enemy to death one orange crew member at a time with APDS

Whilst you have almost no armour to take return fire

And when you do you cant angle because your flank gets overmatched by autocannons

And your slow going forwards and even slower back

>playing fv4005

Sure way to lose lions

Tho with my experience with brits is to hull down and try to snipe anything from 2km with needles

Thats pretty much it

Yeah, the repair costs are insane. You hit BV 6 and basically empty your lions wallet if you get hit before knocking out 4 - 5 tanks and capping the base.

Playing brits is just a waste of lions in high teir

At the end of a good game you are still short like 2k cuz ammo comrade

Oh my god, it's almost like British tanks were fucking garbage

And that's why literally nobody else followed their retarded design ideology.

Be glad they didn't model the horrible accuracy, petal jamming, and tumbling of APDS

The British are fucking mongoloids

Trying to defend British tanks, lmao

>Fucking mongoloids
>Centurion (A Medium tank designed in 1944 and built in 1945 and updated many times since) was capable of easily out performing the Abrahams under operational conditions until a few years back.
>Challenger can shrug off slavshit AP from point blank (know this because I talked to a tank commander who was in the gulf, his tank was ambushed at pb and the slavic shot bounced)
>British tech used in most Western tanks
But if your on about WW2 designs then yeah, that was retarded

The Chally is the slowest, least useful MBT in the western world.

It's good for defense

>Cruisers
>Infantry
>Light
It was a bad idea from the start

And at the same time tougher than any other tank in the world so far.

Also >gulf
So he got shot by training shells

What's actually impressive is the Chally that got hit like 29 times by various RPGs including RPG-29's AND A MILAN, and got knocked out because *the driver slipped in to a ditch on accident*

That said, you have to understand our philosophy with tanks, we are/were until recently gearing up to fae the soviet hordes and the general idea was to sit back hull down and pick them off at range

Oh shit yeah, that one

*How did I forget*

Or that the only successful combat penetration of a Chally 2 was point-blank as it came over the hill, on the lower glacis, and all it did was pop some toes off the driver.

WITH AN RPG-29

Don't get me wrong, the Challenger 2 is my fucking spirit animal

It's the Maus reincarnated as an MBT

BUT, it's riddiled with British stupidity.

But yeah, mobility was not considered massively key as the general idea was to let *them* come to *us* because *fuck charging a literal sea of soviet tanks*

The problem is that these days wars are becoming more and more mobile, hence why we operated leopards in fuckbuckistan

I mean it's not the worst idea

Its just outdated

My biggest issue with the Chally is that AFAIK it doesn't run an MTU diesel and a smoothbore 120.

So CHARM will punch through shit real good up close, better than M829 or DM-whatever the fuck, but it can't do shit at range because *rifled 120*

Oh yeah, the guns being upgraded *finally*

Except they want a German gun because what is in-house production amiright