Because many vets who own businesses and do that "veteran owned," shit behave in a bad manner if they fuck up an order, make a mistake, or have bad PR by justifying it as you're "anti-vet," even if you have legitimate concerns or claims

DO IT OR YOU HATE AMERICA, AND VETS

Ugh

what you really need is a new war to reshape discipline

No other countries' vets do this shit

nothing major like ww3

Seriously

nononono

but something to push your guys shit in and get your act together

Ngl I've been harangued over my view that veterans are not gods and should cease being put on a pedestal

no do not want 3rd world insurgencies

Our veterans and active duty act like fucking tools on joint operations

I was blown away here in Sweden they don't thank me for my service

Thank *fuck*

@Ringleader064 just invade venezula :^)

Do you know how weird that is

Being on the other end is even weirder

@urzu117 I see what you did there.

I talked to some NATO operatives who were high up in the Cold War, and they say the same shit our current NATO guys say

Which is, we dick about on joint ops, don't take them seriously, and have a serious discipline issue amongst all 5 branches until you hit our higher end professionals or our specialists in critical MOSes.

Then they say the training from those few are invaluable/some of the best in the world.

IE: Medical training stateside we give our allies.

I mean that makes sense

Every year we got dickbags who laugh at the Swedish cold weather instructors and sure enough, 5-10 nearly die of Hypo

It does, it's actually common sense when written out this way

The US has *never* had a disciplined ground force. Ever.

Just most Americans would never have the rose tinted shit fall off their eyes

I mean, in the grand scheme of things

We're the equivalent of a white Congo/third world revolution

It's no different than the Ivory Coast rebelling against France, except we're the same shit as those we rebelled against

So it was all groovy. Plus it removed debt from England so it worked out

Well I mean in every war we've fought it has been a universal fact that US forces will do whateverthe fuck they feel like at the time, with no discernable tactics or strategy 99% of the time.

Ah if only we were still that way today. Perhaps we could own weed and automatics

The revolutionary part.

Not the "not reading our own regulations/manuals/sticking to our own doctrine," part.

Like one engagement to the next against US forces and you can see totally different tactics and responses

Let alone between different branches

We had two ops in 2018 that were a massive shit show

One in Iceland, the other, Trident Juncture

How bad?

Iceland field op, simulation between small Icelandic force and U.S MEU.