Message from @viridian

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2018-12-12 19:21:01 UTC  

It was more like 70 milliom

2018-12-12 19:24:05 UTC  

"I consider the Joint Proclamation a rehash of the Declaration at the Cairo Conference. As for the Government, it does not attach any important value to it at all. The only thing to do is just kill it with silence . We will do nothing but press on to the bitter end to bring about a successful completion of the war."

-Kantarō Suzuki, prime minister of Japan

2018-12-12 19:24:29 UTC  

@viridian btw russia and japan never signed any peace agreements.

2018-12-12 19:24:44 UTC  

@NoIdea They did actually

2018-12-12 19:25:08 UTC  

@Flash more info plz? i didn't knew that

2018-12-12 19:25:09 UTC  

Soviet-Japaneese neutrality pact

2018-12-12 19:25:43 UTC  

"That alone should be enough evidence also your thing about the emperor is also p inaccurate"
*fails to show any sort of evidence, quotes, etc.

2018-12-12 19:28:18 UTC  

@Flash just checked, this pact was before the declaration of war between japan and urss (45). But didn't knew about this

2018-12-12 19:28:18 UTC  

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2018-12-12 19:28:34 UTC  

>says that while not providing quotes himself

2018-12-12 19:28:36 UTC  

Yeah, the soviets broke the pact

2018-12-12 19:28:47 UTC  

Like Germany broke the molotov-ribbentrop pact

2018-12-12 19:29:18 UTC  

The use of this barbarous weapon…was of no material assistance in our war against Japan.” —Adm. William Leahy, Truman's Chief of Staff

2018-12-12 19:29:38 UTC  

“It was a mistake.... [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it.” —Adm. William “Bull” Halsey

2018-12-12 19:29:56 UTC  

No one likes that we had to use the bomb

2018-12-12 19:29:56 UTC  

“the Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell, because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.”

2018-12-12 19:30:07 UTC  

^commanding general of us air forces henry arnold

2018-12-12 19:30:09 UTC  

But we had no choice unless we wanted another 2 million deaths

2018-12-12 19:31:09 UTC  

They literally surrendered

2018-12-12 19:31:18 UTC  

before nagasaki

2018-12-12 19:31:31 UTC  

the session to discuss surrender began before nagasaki

2018-12-12 19:31:48 UTC  

any details about that?

2018-12-12 19:31:54 UTC  

Yeah gimme a sec

2018-12-12 19:33:02 UTC  

The beginning of the meeting and the Nagasaki bombing were 30 minutes apart

2018-12-12 19:33:13 UTC  

There was no way the U.S knew they were discussing surrender

2018-12-12 19:42:05 UTC  

@Flash which meeting are you talking about?

2018-12-12 19:42:05 UTC  

Congratulations, @NoIdea for reaching level 1!

2018-12-12 19:43:30 UTC  

The Supreme war council

2018-12-12 19:43:43 UTC  

I think was the name of the group which met

2018-12-12 19:48:02 UTC  

and it took multiple cabinet meetings spanning 3 days to finally agree on surrending

2018-12-12 19:49:50 UTC  

@viridian Wher'd you go?

2018-12-12 19:50:13 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-12 19:50:30 UTC  

um idk if thats a good excuse for killing 120000 civilians

2018-12-12 19:51:19 UTC  

Again, civillians saw the emporer as a god and were killling themselves rather than surrender to U.S soldiers, plus we dropped leaflets ffs

2018-12-12 19:51:32 UTC  

leaflets didnt list hiroshima as a target

2018-12-12 19:51:41 UTC  

also, nagasaki leaflets were never dropped

2018-12-12 19:51:50 UTC  

ik what yr talking about, the lemay leaflets

2018-12-12 19:52:15 UTC  

also do you have a non american source in the supposed "millions of civilians ready to kill themselves rather than surredner"

2018-12-12 19:52:26 UTC  

what happened to these supposed people when japan surrendered?

2018-12-12 19:53:11 UTC  

also if by killing themselves you mean jumping off cliffs