Message from @Harry C

Discord ID: 530120175836463125


2019-01-02 19:36:32 UTC  

@épée For me, Communism is an early industrial era Utopia. Atomic era/Late Industrial era Utopia is something akin to Brave New World. A scientifically advance technocracy with an emphasis on reality and the capacity to ignore it in favor of constant pleasure. The information age Utopia is Player One Ready, in which we can no longer escape reality and must admit to our inability to create Utopia irl. But online is our Oasis.

2019-01-02 19:38:39 UTC  

But in my opinion such technology is far from utopia. Like a mirage it is not real. It is simulated happiness.

2019-01-02 19:45:01 UTC  

In other words, the modern zeitgeist is that the world is fucked, and we have responded by retreating into the last known refuge of freedom and the last chance to find something that will better our world.

2019-01-02 19:47:01 UTC  

@Harry C I know, but it is reflective of how we feel. The oasis in the book not only held an escape from reality but a chance to better reality. Like a mirage of an oasis to man dying in a desert.

2019-01-02 19:47:01 UTC  

Congratulations, @zerohero007 for reaching level 1!

2019-01-02 19:47:10 UTC  

Fuck your level 1

2019-01-02 19:53:42 UTC  

It is a chance to better reality. However it is if future humans don't get trapped by the virtual one. They may see no need to improve the real world when the one they built feels so much better.

2019-01-02 19:54:30 UTC  

Yall

2019-01-02 19:54:37 UTC  

*I'm a communist*

2019-01-02 19:54:40 UTC  

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2019-01-02 19:56:35 UTC  

@Harry C This is where our current society is at.

2019-01-02 20:03:10 UTC  

But it's only getting worse @zerohero007

2019-01-02 20:03:24 UTC  

Oculus rift for example.

2019-01-02 20:04:40 UTC  

Wrong, it's getting better @Harry C .
Liberty and freedom have been under attack for years and recently there has been a backlash against authoritarian forces.

2019-01-02 20:04:53 UTC  

Thanks in no small part to the internet

2019-01-02 20:04:57 UTC  

Our Oasis

2019-01-02 20:09:32 UTC  

But that's always the intent at first. Good is always the intent. Carl Marx thought communism was amazing, and millions died.
Hitler thought Facism would lead Germany to victory, millions died.
Systems can always be corrupt. Our oasis can still be hijacked by governments. China does is normally, article 13 will do it and Authoritarianism will always threaten it.

2019-01-02 20:11:29 UTC  

Nothing is perfect. I try to always be skeptical when presented with a fact so I can find an opinion for it and later argue so I can get information.

2019-01-02 20:11:58 UTC  

It's how I get past propoghanda and bias.

2019-01-02 20:27:42 UTC  

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2019-01-02 20:28:19 UTC  

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2019-01-02 20:29:32 UTC  

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2019-01-02 20:33:12 UTC  

<:anarcho_autism:428200924322988042> <:autism:428200901518426112> <:Bizarreainsley:435054920266416128>

2019-01-02 20:40:17 UTC  

Im reading the communist manifesto

2019-01-02 20:41:08 UTC  

Bless you, SCP-049

2019-01-02 20:42:54 UTC  

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2019-01-02 20:44:52 UTC  

Marx just confused centralism with federalism

2019-01-02 20:45:38 UTC  

“The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier and one customs-tariff.”

2019-01-02 20:45:59 UTC  

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2019-01-02 20:46:06 UTC  

This is basically federalism

2019-01-02 20:46:13 UTC  

In America anyway

2019-01-02 20:48:06 UTC  

Yeah. Just gotta beware of 🅱 ernie s🅰 anders

2019-01-02 20:50:16 UTC  

“the epidemic of over-production. Society suddenly finds itself put back into a state of momentary barbarism; it appears as if a famine, a universal war of devastation had cut off the supply of every means of subsistence”

2019-01-02 20:50:17 UTC  

Wth XD

2019-01-02 20:53:59 UTC  

Now Marx is mad that feudalism died

2019-01-02 20:54:13 UTC  

Does he even know what that is??

2019-01-02 20:54:30 UTC  

It’s a fancy form of slavery

2019-01-02 21:00:17 UTC  

“These labourers, who must sell themselves piece-meal, are a commodity, like every other article of commerce,”

2019-01-02 21:00:33 UTC  

Marx sees humans as objects now

2019-01-02 21:03:20 UTC  

“The less the skill and exertion of strength implied in manual labour, in other words, the more modern industry becomes developed, the more is the labour of men superseded by that of women. Differences of age and sex have no longer any distinctive social validity for the working class."

2019-01-02 21:03:29 UTC  

GAHAHAHA