https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union ...which happened every 10 years until stalin came to power

i can even agree that during Tsarist times, Russia was having a Famine before...

actually it was a drought every 5 years

despict Nicolas II was an incompetent Tsar

droughts existed the entirety of russian history

he even personally took control of the Russian Army, wich it ended in a incredible failure

@beans because of the weather

yes

the 1932-33 famine was the last naturally occurring famine in soviet history

the only one that came after that was in 1946 because the nazis burned russian farms

lol i just found the NKVD Hitler

ok cool

@beans send any source and proof of it

i did

scroll up

Kurwa

"The second major Soviet famine happened during the initial push for collectivization during the 30s. Major causes include the 1932–33 confiscations of grain and other food by the Soviet authorities[1] which contributed to the famine and affected more than forty million people, especially in the south on the Don and Kuban areas and in Ukraine, whereby various estimates millions starved to death or died due to famine related illness (the event known as Holodomor)"

you are still denying the Holodomor and even Wikipedia has the definition of it

nkvd hitler lol

@beans even your own source affirms the Holodomor

I will give beans this, Socialism and Communism was not given in it's original marxist form in which there is no money, so it is sort of capitalist but with a marxist spin off

you realize wikipedia is multiple sources right

socialism is what marx described as first stage communism

exactly

@Vlasov how's it going mate?

And also Grimm you don't have to be left wing to like Socialism or Communism, look at the Nazis on the far right

what do you mean by that @Lieutenant Phys

gud

it is gud comrades

Don't speak in Sweedistanish

@Lieutenant Phys i'm not eve Radical Left Wing wtf

still have not overthrown stalin though 😦

I know grimm

The Nazis are a lost cause, mixing far left and far right ideologies

@Lieutenant Phys do you think nazis like socialism and communism?

What am I saying right now?

It's Nationalist Socialism

even when they made it illegal to be a socialists

and killed many socialists

at the fact i had to work with the fuckers is awful