@beans even your own source affirms the Holodomor

I will give beans this, Socialism and Communism was not given in it's original marxist form in which there is no money, so it is sort of capitalist but with a marxist spin off

you realize wikipedia is multiple sources right

socialism is what marx described as first stage communism

exactly

@Vlasov how's it going mate?

And also Grimm you don't have to be left wing to like Socialism or Communism, look at the Nazis on the far right

what do you mean by that @Lieutenant Phys

gud

it is gud comrades

Don't speak in Sweedistanish

@Lieutenant Phys i'm not eve Radical Left Wing wtf

still have not overthrown stalin though 😦

I know grimm

The Nazis are a lost cause, mixing far left and far right ideologies

@Lieutenant Phys do you think nazis like socialism and communism?

What am I saying right now?

It's Nationalist Socialism

even when they made it illegal to be a socialists

and killed many socialists

at the fact i had to work with the fuckers is awful

🆙 | **Vlasov leveled up!**

i am a general of 2 devils

what

you dont know who Vlasov is?

you fucking twat

Marker they were against Marxist ideas, but they had a sort of National Socialism which Hitler stated that is Socialism in it's most workable form

So idk the hypocrisy

Socialism is Marxism tho

yes

And marx was a jew

Wtf was hitler thinking

how can something be socialism in its most workable form without being marxist?

doesnt really makes sense

Hypernationalism

and totalitarianism

so that makes it marxism?

No it doesn't

does it make it Socialist?

The hypernationalism and totalitarianism no, they were just used as a tool to keep the people working

so basically they weren't socialists