what are you on about

for the most part

Imagine have many so facts and data that Mike called Venezuela disaster on 2013
https://youtu.be/c0DK0kS3Mjw

🤔

You know, I don't mind socialist policies. If you want to provide coverage to the poor and raise taxes that's fine with me

really makes you think

@Tiikrig yesterday, there were Small riots in different parts of Caracas

right wingers don't got arguments so they just make strawmen

just don't like it when politicians go all Che Guevara about it

There’s riots almost every day in Venezuela lol

elaborate tiikrig

and suposedly a Bolivarian National Guards Squad was revealed against the goverment

Sadly... they were sofocated...

what do you not like about socialism

@Ioanni not always...

My main concearn is when politicians say stuff like "They will never come back to power" and "We are the people", like taking over national and popular identity, somehow alienating every disagreement from the debate

what politicians

socialist politicians?

In Latin America we have both sides of the spectrum taking this attitude, but most recently the left through figures like Chavez, Morales and Correa.

hm

@Tiikrig are you a supporter of direct democracy?

No

@Tiikrig you forgot Daniel Ortega

I don't believe in direct democracy

Republic I say

The system is just messed up because you tax the rich which actually worked for their money and the middle class for a lower class that does not work and contribute to the country

no @Ioanni

wait what

@Ioanni wich system?

Socialism

https://youtu.be/KI5bI6Dc8Zw

the rich which actually worked for their money and the middle class for a lower class that does not work and contribute to the country?

you got something essentialy wrong my friend

what the hell

Societies should be free to seek their fate, but nobody should deny the possibility they turn the other way at some point

The CEO often just does work invloving money or organizing, but will really just hire someone else to do it for them once they have the money
The people doing the actual work, while it may be simpler, are the ones who deserve the money as they are the ones producing it

So when Hugo Chavez started to call out the oppossition as fascists and saying "They shall never come back" I saw what was wrong with him

@Marker @diká you still saying to us that we the Right Wingers have no arguments and we always use feelings... do you even look at your Left-Winger guys?

I’m talking about the people who work like the rich so actually worked for their money