learn stuff from roko

that's my life

@EdgyEcchis true

didnt think of that

i dont care about the language, i just like problem solving - but i wanna streamline my language preferene to what gives best roi

Cool, I have to expand sometime soon to some new games

Kotlin is good, but I don't trust Google and their new development environments/languages that change every year. With hybrid app development, you don't have to re-learn everything after a year or two. That speeds things up for you and your team.

There's things like Dart combined with flutter coming out now for android development. I'd check that out before kotlin

I don't even game really, lol last thing I played was megaman X on my ipad

Lol, nothing wrong with that. I love megaman

roko how good is ur data struc and algs knowledge?

do u practise it

@cwbghf I'm 33 now so I've done my fair share of gaming in the past

I can tell you that it's absolutely useless for you. The only real use it when you need to write high-performing code or if you're preparing for an interview at Google, Apple or Facebook where they ask these questions.

I am up-to-speed with it, but I'd still review it if I have to do something critical with it.

data stru and algs is useless? what makes you a good developer then?

well

problem solver

Anyway, I just anted to drop in to say hello. I'll let you guys hang out and I'll definitely drop in sometime soon! You all have a good day

i just do it cos it's fun

but i thought it was a good investment too

@cwbghf cya

The difference is huge if you work alongside senior developers for a while

so wouldnt that mean learning it is important?

So some senior developer could write something short, re-usable and efficient in maybe 30 minutes. A junior developer might spend an entire week doing the same thing, while making a complete mess out of it that cannot be re-used, or extended easily. Things like that add up. It's up to efficiency and knowing what you can and can't do.

yeah - so how would you train that?

make more stuff?

and be conscious of where to improve

No... study design patterns and SOLID programming principles.

and add to your own library of tools

Or look at open source projects?

that's what i thought

Looking at well-structured code makes me warm inside. Just look up how to write generic classes and functions (C# is perfect for this!)

design patterns are template that cover a large scope of problems?

that's what i do now but at a basic level

very basic

i have my own library i'm building up

Sort of yeah. Everybody "should" know them and they make it easier for someone else to understand the structure of your code. These patterns also make it easier to add things to your code without breaking it.

how did oyu learn these things

i'm going to study CS so will that be taught ?

I think so yeah

@shadowlessnexus do you study design patterns and SOLID programming principles.