What a shame

Here's a philosophical question for yall: if none of this shit had ever happened, no feminism, no fucked up marriages, good gender relations, no nothing, would yall still go mgtow and why? I've heard hermit ask this before and I was always curious how others felt.

They really aren't good for anything except being a repository for children

I would, but that's because I value my freedom

I would potentially have kids later in life to have them but I wouldn't get married in my 20s or 30s

@Head Scribe Drayanor If all of that resulted in my life also taking a different trajectory, maybe? If you’re asking the man I am, right now, absolutely not.

Same, marriage to me, feminism or not, always just seemed to be a draining event

The thing about male psyche is that men are wired to sacrifice.

@Head Scribe Drayanordepends on the available flesh females in my village

I’ve also moved from wanting kids to distinctly not wanting them, which I know sets me statistically apart from a lot of men, so that’s a huge boon of marriage that has no value to me.

*flesh females* I'm fucking done <:lolz:480186121897377792>

Oh fuck kids

No, please *don’t* fuck kids.

Sex dolls are going to become a huge market

If in a different life where I would want to get married I'd tell her from the get go: NO KIDS

@Five, Seven, and Two What prompted that shift for you? Wanting kids to not wanting the,

Assuming things were terrible mind you

them*

if you want to raise kids youd need ABSOLUTE authority over them

@frugalcasper A lot of factors. Too many to get into in general chat.

Last thing I want is baby never shuts the fuck up screaming his head off at 2:40 in the morning

Men should be studing engineering and robotics and then work at making sex dolls companies. Could be the next bill gates.

I'm studying cybersecurity, I'll make sure you AI doesn't get hacked or corrupted

Yeah must be a good industry to get into if you are young.

Right now, my autonomy is an absolute value for me, but that’s far from the steps I took to get here.

@Five, Seven, and Two You ever live with a thot?

@Head Scribe Drayanor You and I may yet cross paths one day, Dray.

@frugalcasper Yes.

@Five, Seven, and Two Living with a thot is a mega red pill suppository

@frugalcasper That actually wasn’t a red pill moment for me. I was objectively in the wrong for how it ended.

Yall hear what I was talking about yesterday? This bitch who put up the degree plan for cybersecurity said I don't need calculus. Your ass better believe I'mma be up this summer studying advanced math.

@Five, Seven, and Two interesting

Most guys i've spoke to really saw the value in their freedom once they moved in with a thot

I could throw in my cents to that too since im fresh off 8 year relationship.

Damn that's long

It's blinding. It's not that you don't necessarily value your life but it's blinding. Life is short and when you spend a long time of it with another person you don't have contrast.

It's only after you are free you often realize how much you gave up of yourself.

Especially if you are blue pill.

Yea, I can believe that. I've never had such a long relationship

@frugalcasper She was a surfer and I was a chef. We spent a lot of time traveling and didn’t hang at home much, or for long.

Society tells you all this is normal and you don't realize until you regain what you lost