Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is in 1850s~1860s

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon no

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China had a huge rebellion in the 1870s. That was because of lost faith in the qing dynasty and their first attempt to remove them from power, which failed @Z-Man (soon to be Y A)

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They tried again in the 1900s and that time it led to the nationlists

That's how the nationlists came to be

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon interesting.. and even then the Qing remained with their heads stuck in theirn own asses

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon that's in 1850s... and that legitmaly shift power to the Han chinese as the nobles can't fight anymore

I just corrected you earlier, lol

1850s, my bad

Qing's entire system broke down when they gave up the imperial test system

it didnt help that the Qing were manchus, seen as foreign invaders

as the upper class no long have a reason to support Qing's royal class

But thats the short version of what went down basically the qing lost the opium war and that made it inevitable for rebellion

the problem wasa Qing's noble class was getting too comfy and lost the ability to fight

or do anything

When the nationlists took power they were just as bad, lol

actually, no, Opium war was a sign of weakness on Qing's part, but actual rebellion from the Han upper class did not start till later 1890s

So the Chinese went through another damn civil war to get them out

And that's when you get the commies we know and love today

? no nationalists never took power

this is something most people don't under stand

there are some strong paralel between the late francha ristocrasy and the late chinese aristocracy

China is not a united country until communist wiped out most military overlords

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which doesn't happen till 1949

The nationalists were the ones who got international recognition

During Japan's Invasion China is consisst of many local warlords

When the cia and western banks financed mao like I said.

yes, but they don't have actual power over the warlords

They were submissive towards the nationalist before the war due to nationalist govenrment's superior military

but the nationalist lost most of their main force in the early part of Japan invasion

so Local warlords were more defending their own turf than working with the nationalists during the invasion

The way that the communists took over china is one of the dirtiest moves in military history

They basically let the nationlists deal with the Japanese

And then came out and killed them in a huge ass offensive

that's not even the deciding factor lol

you know that the nationalists was under total trade embargo from 1947 to 1949?