The Extra creditz Sun yat sen series clarified many things

They were kinda doing what they could

with corruption and incompetence all around

and with abject rejection of reforms

imagine it

in another timeline China is a constitutional monarchy

like the UK

this is so wrong I don't even know where to start teasing you guys lol

the whole reason the nationlists came to power in the first place, was because after the opium war the Chinese population had lost faith in the qing dynasty

is Kari trying to smash Axel? wtf is happening in kh3 i skipped all the cutscenes lol

You know the rebellion that happened in the 1870s?

wat

Yeah she wants the D

need some kari porn in anime babes

I ain't leaving my bitch alone in the woods with 6ft 4 gigachad axel that's for sure

Taiping Heavenly Kingdom is in 1850s~1860s

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon no

What's the black equivalent to a Gigachad?

Giganigga

Gigaleroy

China had a huge rebellion in the 1870s. That was because of lost faith in the qing dynasty and their first attempt to remove them from power, which failed @Z-Man (soon to be Y A)

😁

They tried again in the 1900s and that time it led to the nationlists

That's how the nationlists came to be

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon interesting.. and even then the Qing remained with their heads stuck in theirn own asses

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon that's in 1850s... and that legitmaly shift power to the Han chinese as the nobles can't fight anymore

I just corrected you earlier, lol

1850s, my bad

Qing's entire system broke down when they gave up the imperial test system

it didnt help that the Qing were manchus, seen as foreign invaders

as the upper class no long have a reason to support Qing's royal class

But thats the short version of what went down basically the qing lost the opium war and that made it inevitable for rebellion

the problem wasa Qing's noble class was getting too comfy and lost the ability to fight

or do anything

When the nationlists took power they were just as bad, lol

actually, no, Opium war was a sign of weakness on Qing's part, but actual rebellion from the Han upper class did not start till later 1890s

So the Chinese went through another damn civil war to get them out

And that's when you get the commies we know and love today

? no nationalists never took power

this is something most people don't under stand

there are some strong paralel between the late francha ristocrasy and the late chinese aristocracy