@Deep Fried Jesus Now what you are describing is secrecy. That's also a thing and an effective strategy.

Nothing I describing is secret at all.

@BlaqShiep think of it as prepper training

However, it is not protected by law, and should seeds escape and someone else can figure it out for less or just to compete, you're SOL.

In my hypothetical, I have a moral, earned monopoly, and you're saying you're entitled to the shit because of all the money you COULD be making.

Monsanto very specifically patented the shit out of their seed crops and convinced lawmakers to ban seed retention. But that's something else.

@Nawalter Jizney what doesn't kill me...

@Deep Fried Jesus No, I'm saying your monopoly will not be protected if you didn't patent/copyright it.

Or otherwise protect it yourself.

@Xychotic They have also succesfully sued farmers who have had patented seed fly onto their land from neighboring famrs

there needs to be no copyright or patent on a lifeform teetering on extinction, and exists only as I say it does. Unless Im a retard, and either give it away, or lose track of seeds, something Im saying doesn't happen, the only way you can have one is by stealing it.

Though, theft in itself will be punished and that could lead to civil case that identifies the loss associated with the theft. That's not cool, but your business could indeed take fatal damage from such theft and there's a cap on how much someone can be punished to make it right.

Pivoting into copyright and patents is bullshit. Monoplies are no different from wealth inequality. Its totally benign, but people with commie hearts hate it.

@frugalcasper I've heard about it. Monsanto is a case study in corporate/private power in excess.

I would like one of these magical seeds ...

@Deep Fried Jesus Monopolies are very different.

@Xychotic Yup

"because I say they are"

have fun with that

@frugalcasper I understand Bayer bought them.

They’re played on a square and you go to jail often

@Xychotic Yes I think so

@Deep Fried Jesus They absolutely are different. What you described was a unique, small, and morally applied monopoly, in theory.

Monopolies, in practice, are not benign and impair the market, not facilitate it. They very specifically are implemented to reduce competition by raising insurmountable barriers to entry but also driving whatever competitors do arrive to their death.

moralizing that monoplies aren't moral because of things done to maintain them doesn't do shit to smear the monopoly, its just guilt by association, an emotional charged, bullshit arguement im sure none of you would actually make, because that would be pathetic.

oh wait!

You think people would really chafe at the idea of one dude being the only source of a thing in demand and charging reasonable prices?

You can always try to develop a substitute.

Not if you have the full power behind the reviled monopoly.

now you're talking about levying things to maintain the monopoly again.

Monopolies only work so long. Ask the King of France

Ask the USSR

you people are literally arguing in cirlces, because you hate monoploies for trumped up reasons.

I do hate communism

sure you do.

it lost

1488!

I don't *hate* monopolies.

@Nawalter Jizney Careful goyim

Lol

nobody likes the ussr, or "Communism", but you'll argue up and down, and in a very sneaky way how income inequality and monopolies are evil by association.