Message from @ebowden
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It could be a distraction from something that we don't even know about
Remember, Trump is a master of distraction
Empathizing with people. I noticed he very much enjoys listening to people's concerns.
Wut?
that's just me shooting from the hip. I am not 100% on this just a thought
It is true that it is a skill of his, he used it to achieve what legions of professional politicians could not.
But... what does that have to do with him telling repubs "you're afraid of the NRA" and the bumpstock ban?
its not me thinking its 4d chess, I just think if he hosts a listening session and you get a clip from that meeting talking about the NRA. I think people read in to this too much, might be bants, might be serious, might be a "change my mind" statement. tbh idk but the only thing he said that worried me was the taking people's guns who are "mentally ill" without due process made me wary.
again nothing is set in stone yet
I have been checking the NRA ILA every day and nothing major has been suggested
The NRA can suck it.
ok why?
They were a darling of the left until they came across the first piece of legislation they didn't like, now they are supposed "extremists".
every year members vote on the Board of directors. None of them are fixed positions. I vote every year and got people who cucked removed. Gun owners of America haven't done shit and do not have any pull at all. Like it or not people calling/writing congress people and the NRA Institute for legislative action are doing a good job pushing back.
And that Wayne cunt is full of shit. "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
Such bullshit rhetoric, MANY things can stop a bad a guy with a gun, bare hands, talking down, knives, a bomb on a robot. Now, it is true that a bullet to the head is an awfully effective way of stopping someone, but it is far from the only one.
its rhetoric he is preaching to the choir
I don't care about that.
right then why bring it up?
It could be preaching to the inner circle of the choir organising committee for all I care.
wait you aren't even American
What bothers me isn't "preaching to the choir", it's bullshit.
He serves only as source of low hanging fruit to be pilloried by the left.
No ones mind gets changed through facts on guns, shootings, statistics, ect... Do you think they wouldn't push gun control if we had a better spokesman?
Of course they don't care, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't.
We don't need people on our side doing what they do.
https://my.mixtape.moe/rlsdxg.webm
I highly recommend this.
These are both excellent videos.
My perspective from arguing with a lot of anti-gun people is that they do not come to their conclusions from a realistic standpoint (world is violent) they are weak willed and weak minded. They fight on the battlefield of emotional rhetoric. So why would someone on "our side" try and win people over by saying "oh an AR-15 isn't an Assault Rifle" or "The shootings only happen in gun free zones..." and al those platitudes witch have been repeated ad nauseam. They do not care and want to eventually take guns. My perspective is that we just call these people faggots, weaklings, and moral cowards. They seem unwilling to be convinced of facts or reason. Justicar's videos are fine, but again they preach to the choir. No one likes being frames as pussies and basic bitches and I think we should just bullcide people who are gun grabbers. Facts convince people who are on the fence (sometimes) or want to be convinced. overwhelmingly it looks like the people who want to take firearms are not going to be convinced, just like they won't talk me out of my position on weaponry.
I do like those videos
There are quite a few in the comments who were made America loving patriots by The Justicar.
(He is a mathematician, can set out proper arguments.)
I am not denying that
He certainly changed my mind on a lot of things.
Do you think most people are convinced by proper argumentation?
if you do you have a lot more faith in people than I do
In any case, insulting people is one thing (Justicar does a lot of that), outright bullshit is another.
This is no excuse for lies.