Message from @Finno

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2019-03-07 15:27:10 UTC  

Russians did use 7.62x39 more in 1995 and I think they're probs going to change it to that or some NATO round (5.56x45 NATO perhaps?) with next gun design but for small nation it ain't so big priority to design new guns for every change

2019-03-07 15:27:22 UTC  

Simo Häyhä you mean?

2019-03-07 15:27:47 UTC  

Short guy, his career ended when he was captured after an exploding bullet to the face.

2019-03-07 15:28:03 UTC  

well just the Winter War in general

2019-03-07 15:28:39 UTC  

I don't remember if Häyhä was captured but he did get exploding bullet to the face right before end of the war

2019-03-07 15:28:57 UTC  

maneuver defense worked well

2019-03-07 15:29:02 UTC  

That guy was like a Hurricane Katrina with arms and legs.

2019-03-07 15:29:42 UTC  

lol

2019-03-07 15:31:08 UTC  

Tbh I don't know why arty in general uses rk62 and not something more compact that would be lighter and less in the way, something like vz.61 škorpion

2019-03-07 15:31:36 UTC  

who would win? a battalion of Russian Soldiers or an angry Finnish farmer with a bolt gun and a suomi sub-machinegun

2019-03-07 15:32:00 UTC  

@Grump The Horrible The katrina man wasn't a trained soldier?

2019-03-07 15:32:13 UTC  

I think he was a reservist

2019-03-07 15:32:48 UTC  

Rk62 was good gun but for what arty is for it ain't that practical, it will just lead to golf reloading and such

2019-03-07 15:32:56 UTC  

Still a trained soldier.

2019-03-07 15:33:05 UTC  

Also, lol, let's not shit on reservists then.

2019-03-07 15:33:54 UTC  

Around 80% of finnish men (could be higher % cba to check right now) are military trained

2019-03-07 15:34:11 UTC  

No not poking fun at all

2019-03-07 15:35:19 UTC  

@Grump The Horrible I know, I was just saying that with this knowledge my opinion of reservists has changed a wee bit.

2019-03-07 15:35:54 UTC  

Also, wow, you never know where among the Finish population a gifted commie slayer might be hiding.

2019-03-07 15:37:00 UTC  

Invading that country would be the stuff of nightmares.

2019-03-07 15:37:22 UTC  

Russians could probs invade us but staying would be the true nightmare

2019-03-07 15:38:55 UTC  

You never know from which corner a Slav Slayer will emerge and start disposing of your men.

2019-03-07 15:39:40 UTC  

But yeah I think mandatory military service is good thing to have, it will give some folk a bit of wakeup call and there is way less of the "firing a gun cave me ptsd" kind of folk.

2019-03-07 15:40:12 UTC  

Although, the Russian military are not the poorly trained and equipped, undisciplined game of uber-rapists they were in WWII.

2019-03-07 15:41:10 UTC  

They are a very different breed today, very well trained and equipped, disciplined.

2019-03-07 15:43:35 UTC  

I checked our strength from Wikipedia
>12k career soldiers and cilians
>22k trained conscripts every year
>280k fighters (wartime strength)
>900k in reserve

2019-03-07 15:44:16 UTC  

Finns or Russians?

2019-03-07 15:44:21 UTC  

Finns

2019-03-07 15:44:50 UTC  

What's the Russians' strength?

2019-03-07 15:45:51 UTC  

>1,013,628  active personnel
>2,572,500 reserve

2019-03-07 15:47:01 UTC  

Well that's a lot, but Russia would have a lot of territory to be concerned about, whilst Finland would only be defending its border against them.

2019-03-07 15:48:48 UTC  

Yeah and if we'd have to try and get out strength to same size we'd have to have 2/3rd of our population ether in reserve or active personnel, including women, underaged and unhealthy folk

2019-03-07 15:49:23 UTC  

Russia could probably muster a lot more troops than is written there.

2019-03-07 15:49:58 UTC  

But if they would annex us you could imagine what kind of harm would 900k in reserve do

2019-03-07 15:50:33 UTC  

Russia's economy is shite, and more babies are aborted than born.

2019-03-07 15:51:09 UTC  

They also have loads of territory to defend, so even if they muster a bunch of extra troops...

2019-03-07 15:53:24 UTC  

(The average lifespan is kind of short too.)

2019-03-07 19:47:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392485287286013966/553302774419554334/D0hpqISXcAIr-yd.jpeg

2019-03-07 19:48:41 UTC  

lol

2019-03-07 22:08:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392485287286013966/553338309338988565/D1FOt1eXcAUT0gW.jpeg