Message from @Anemic Crusader
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I know someone who's hippie sister loves coke and sex, but an implanon is just TOOOO CHEMICUL.
After all there’s a reason to kill it
So rather than having CHEMICULS IN MUH BODY, she has regular abortions.
dont see how mothers should be able to kill their unborn baby because they just dont feel like having a kid
But do you see abortion as a killing/murder?
It is killing.
Then that makes it wrong
Morally
I have no idea at what point it becomes killing.
That’s the issue up in the air
But at some point it must be.
Is it made of human matter that is still in the process of being alive?
after fertilization
if so then yes it is killing
Killing is not always wrong.
Correct. We must look at individual cases
But we can also make generalizations
I must not walk down the street and stab the first person I see
its wrong to kill innocents
baby is innocent
If it's a matter of convenience just because they didn't take sex seriously then Abortion is abhorrent
I know of at least one person who was actually like that.
Most people are like that
If you look at the statistics
Honestly I had no position on abortion until I saw some of the insane statistics
No, most people do not have regular abortions because they want sex but think "chemiculs in muh body" is bad, but abortions are just fine.
Pretty much
That is not at all most people.
Culturally in America we are not taught that the fetus is a life
This said, bad reasons do not erase your rights.
This is the inevitable problem with giving people rights.
Correct, but we must also recognize where our rights come from
People are not given rights
Rights given are easily taken away. You must be willing to defend your rights by pen or by sword.
(Figure of speech. You should use rifles.)
No, everyone has rights granted to them solely by existing. The purpose of government is to take away rights that infringe on others
The constitution sees the rights as codiefied in it, not granted by it.
Exactly
That’s why the second amendment is there
You have the right to protect your own rights, and not rely on the government
But the constitution is a piece of paper. The paper needs some steel, propellant and plastic to back it up.