Message from @ebowden

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2018-08-02 00:28:12 UTC  

reports of corn growing in tree from gmo crows

2018-08-02 00:28:12 UTC  

Though I'm more interesting in heriloom produce. But that is almost always organic.

2018-08-02 00:28:20 UTC  

yes that the shit you want to eat

2018-08-02 00:28:21 UTC  

wut

2018-08-02 00:28:29 UTC  

crops*

2018-08-02 00:28:41 UTC  

BT delta endotoxin is a protein used by organic farmers for years.

2018-08-02 00:29:16 UTC  

It is selectively toxic to a select group of insects only in a certain stage of their life cycle.

2018-08-02 00:29:28 UTC  

Because modern produce has been created via various methods to increase crop yield and disease resistance. With flavor a distance third.

2018-08-02 00:29:40 UTC  

You could eat grams of the purified protein and nothing would happen.

2018-08-02 00:29:45 UTC  

true they do taste different

2018-08-02 00:30:12 UTC  

Don't get me started on tomatoes. Getting those to market is an interesting and involved process. Which is why store tomatoes taste much worse than garden ones.

2018-08-02 00:30:18 UTC  

Which is why organic farmers used BT.

2018-08-02 00:30:22 UTC  

i dont think they give the same nutrition as well

2018-08-02 00:30:47 UTC  

Organic farmers use the same process on their tomatoes actually. It's an "organic" process.

2018-08-02 00:30:49 UTC  

but the testing would be costly to prove it

2018-08-02 00:30:53 UTC  

Nutrition is fine, it is the taste I am sad about.

2018-08-02 00:31:13 UTC  

Tomatoes are berries, and designed to ripen and split open dropping seeds on the ground.

2018-08-02 00:31:24 UTC  

This means they have a shelf life of basically nothing.

2018-08-02 00:31:30 UTC  

i doubt organic farms use said protein i fallow alot in agi and ive never seen it used

2018-08-02 00:31:44 UTC  

@REEDSEEJBAMBAM They use the bacterium it is from.

2018-08-02 00:31:54 UTC  

So yes, they use the protein.

2018-08-02 00:32:03 UTC  

i'm not sure its a comman pratice

2018-08-02 00:32:22 UTC  

Probably because it's not very toxic.

2018-08-02 00:32:47 UTC  

Not as nasty as the metal based pesticides and nasty pyrethroids.

2018-08-02 00:32:59 UTC  

So they are picked green and transported closer to point of sale. At this point they are put in a room flooded with ethaline (i think) gas. This is a naturally produced gas that all fruits make. Which encourages the ripening process. Except this is exponentially more.

2018-08-02 00:33:08 UTC  

yeap

2018-08-02 00:33:31 UTC  

green house tomatoes or preserved is the way to go

2018-08-02 00:33:37 UTC  

Organic farmers can use metal based pesticides and nasty pyrethroids to their heart's content.

2018-08-02 00:33:50 UTC  

most don't

2018-08-02 00:33:59 UTC  

The ones I know all do.

2018-08-02 00:34:15 UTC  

You can replicate the process at home with a paper bag, a banana, and another fruit.

2018-08-02 00:34:31 UTC  

then there shitty at what they do or selling a lie for extra dallors

2018-08-02 00:34:51 UTC  

"Organic" pesticides are no less toxic than the ones farmers who aren't selling to yuppies and conspiracy theorists use.

2018-08-02 00:34:59 UTC  

But it flash ripens the fruit. Which doesn't chemically alter the fruit, but does make it taste nowhere near as good.

2018-08-02 00:35:09 UTC  

true

2018-08-02 00:35:20 UTC  

its does not taste like a fresh one

2018-08-02 00:35:40 UTC  

They are usually more toxic.

2018-08-02 00:35:52 UTC  

When they changed the eggs at costco to "cage free" and jacked up the price. I said "I'll beat up the chickens myself if it saves me ten cents a dozen!"

2018-08-02 00:36:06 UTC  

I will rolling pin the eggs right out of those chickens!

2018-08-02 00:36:18 UTC  

lol grumpbee da chicken choker