And pretty much @Kragt but you have an advantage cause being a gofer sucks

So offer to do it and ask to do more

Chat to the tech on the board

I pointed him to the TFM vid about that, but I know he hasn't had time yet.
But you start at the job you want and work backwards from the requirements.
You dont start at the degree and ask what can I do with this? You start at the job and say what do I need to do to get this?

Shit like that is your way. A degree is great but in this case it's the cherry, not the ice-cream

Pretty much, though it depends on the kind of field

@Kragt I wish someone had told me that at 20

I agree, better yet I wish I'd gotten the slap at 16

@Reaper Same. I didn't hear it till last year when TFM said it. XD

well when I heard him say it.

Ok start there.

Then take my advice to the T mate

Look at job postings, ask people who do it right now. See what you need to do to get to their job.

Plus if you mix you will learn way fucking faster. Also bands tend to bring their guy with them, be their guy

@Kragt I heard that as well I figured it out a few years before that but I had already wasted lots of moola on school I didn't need

@Reaper Yikes... Thankfully my career choice works with the schooling I got, but man it was a rough ride.

@Kragt yea I'm in a totally different field now but I'm finally out of debt so it could be worse

@Reaper Good on you for that bit. Debt is a bitch and a half.

Seriously

@Kragt luckily I never intended on getting Married cause no doubt wifey would not have been down with me switching careers

debt takes a hold on you, until you realise the traps

Ah... the edit helped a bit.

Lol sorry

Fucking mobile

S'all good. And yeah. Women want you to make more money first, and maybe have more status as a second. Your needs are nowhere on that list. XD

i quit multiple jobs with my ex and told her mother "I aint no slave".

Badass.

How did she respond?

@Kragt lol yea like if I came home and told her I hated my career she would be like, you just need to try to get that promotion, then you'll feel better, all while i just died inside working there

the family always tries to push you towards that which you dont want to do. When youre young you hav e a gut feeling when what youre doing isnt right

@Gabri no matter what they say, that's what it translates to

I would not be surprised I suspect many woman are dabbling in the dark arts

no

it's chemical addiction

you're addicted to the chemicals released in your brain

She has already planted the seeds, now it is time to find and remove them. It's simply a matter of time.

I have an ex that seems to message me whenever I start making progress, like she knows or something

that's why you go no contact man

you're setting back your own progress

When I see my son, I find myself on constant defense to his mothers bullshit. Stopping her from trying to plant those seeds again.

@°°° the one I'm talking about I do not contact and there are usually months between contact, but it's litterally like she has a 6th sense for my happiness