I can see that, but are you going to stop doing it just because it could be grounded in chasing pussy? You just said it helps you feel better about yourself.

Meaningless really, cause I’m still gonna do what’s good for me anyways, just interesting to ponder

Maybe working out makes women more attracted to you but that doesn't mean you can't do it for yourself

Oh I absolutely agree, hence why it’s just food for thought nothing more @GingerSnaps

Nothing wrong with that mate.

Meow meow

I was impressed by the high-level of conversation. You ruined that 😃

😂

Oh shit that was a great laugh

@Nawalter Jizney How long have you been MGTOW and what are your tips?

Like ... over 2 years I think? Tips in terms of what

Woof woof. lol

In terms of internal validation and how you deal with women

good morning gents

mornin

as far as dealing with women i recommend interacting with them as little as possible

I'm a mgtow rookie but i can see myself falling back onto the plantation quick so i agree. Avoid contact as much as possible until you're at least secure in your path.

That’s a hard one, I’ve always had that sort of selfishness in me so once I ran into mgtow it was easy to say fuck you to everyone outside trying to use me, I guess maybe if you can’t let go of what people think, then at least be more selfish and selective about it for starters. So you would pick out who by seeing if they actually care about you and if what they tell you or their judgement comes from a good place, you pit your own thoughts against theirs if they even got past being worthy of your attention and go from there

I think this method will exclude the majority of people hence eliminating a good portion of external validation

Well said.

I actually hate relationships as the currently are

yeah theyre not worth partaking in

I’m watching some of the grief cycle videos and I can firmly place myself on the valley of suicide

yeah thats what i thought @essence

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DOn't do it, it's a trap!

Most male-female relations are glorified prostitution. There's always someone (most likely the female) getting a huge financial benefit of it. The most powerful person in a relationship these days is the one who cares the least

Valley of suicide for me would probably be more hedonism

on the up side it means youre close to acceptance

That's messed up. I'd rather have a relationship from which nobody benefits. That's impossible to attain with humans nowadays so being able to get something like a doll would solve some of that dilemma

I was in the valley for exactly one day

It was hysterical actually

@Nawalter Jizney Can you tell me about it?

Oh for me I’ve been experiencing it the past week

I'm still on the fence a little about getting a doll, but i get closer and closer to accepting it as a possibility everyday. I just don't know how i'm going to afford one.

get a fleshlight and see if it works for you

if you know youll enjoy it you can budget from there

Can I send a pic to you guys of what my friend just said

@GingerSnaps I would first focus on getting your own place.

@essence Pm?

I'm actually trying to become a reviewer for spinning robot pussy. THere was an ad put out for product testers a while back on tfm's server.