good night or good day or good whatever time of the day it is in your country. bye.

Never saw erased, heard good things though

13 Terrence Popp videos left to download.

Who's next?

The joos

Groundwork for the metaphysics of mgtow?

@Nawalter Jizney I fell asleep half way through reading that channels name.

This TFM DDJ thing is wild LOL

yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

cat boi doesn't want for us to talk about this

Cat boi? As in Feedin?

yeah keep the drama in that server

shadowlessnexus

no. i said keep it civil

I was gonna say, if we can't talk about it I understand, but I wanted to discuss it with some people

misunderstood you there, my bad

I'm super civil about it (even though some of the things said are NOT)

well, since you have permission you can

I don't know man, I just kinda wanna get a different perspective.

have you seen TFM's response?

I am in the process of watching it

I'm not a fan of it so far

too be honest, the beginnig is not that relevant for me (in either video) since the definition between MGTOW and Incel doesn't bother me

I was gonna say, TFM used to call incels TFL (True Force Loneliness) , and said that they're not MGTOW.

I can understand that TFM now saying that Incels CAN be MGTOW with a change in attitude is a little suss

It's kinda like the "Alpha pickup artist" who tells the beta "He CAN be alpha, with a change in his attitude", like, selling a pipe dream. Except making Incels stop valuing women so much is a lot more achievable

I mean, I see nothing wrong there, atleast by your frasing. Incels are not MGTOW but they can be
And yes, it is easier to go from Incel to MGTOW than from beta to Alpha, specially if you consider that Alphas have thing that are giving from their genes. Btw, by easier I didn't mean it's easy, since many MGTOW men end up finding their way back to the plantation (by "MGTOW men" I'm talking about people that actually tried going MGTOW but failed)

hope it's not to confusing

No i see where you're coming from

But a lot of Youtube channels make their money by selling people a pipe dream

and I think TFM specifically had this shift from "Incels aren't MGTOW" to "Incels CAN BE MGTOW", because it would net him subscribers / not alienate the fan base.

I wouldn't go that far, but it can be a possability

how are those statements at all opposed to eachother?

which?

They're not opposed to each other

hows that really a shift then?

They're a frame shift.

It's going from "You're not us, don't bother"

To "You could be like us, just keep taking red pills from us!"

is that not a positive change?

also i disagree. he was saying incels arent mgtow to people who keep lumping incels and mgtow together