Ultimately, whether fair or not, the individuals lost in the overarching social collapse, aren't innocent parties to be protected at any cost. They are causal to the collapse of the overarching social structure.

I just hope that someone forged a meritocracy after the collapse and it rises as one of the phoenixes

bruh

you want a meritocracy

we finna have to force it

when the collpase comes it's finna be a free for all for the government

So the question is, how does one create a overarching social structure that is robust enough to not collapse? One must focus on creating such a overarching social structure one individual at a time.

gestalt consciousness., hive mind tier shit. otherwise the excessive difference in both genetic and environmental input between individuals will eventually always end up shifting any previously created arc and eventually destroy it

Catch me in voice chat some time and I’ll chew your ear off about meritocracy

http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/wood.html

I disagree that this is necessary. What is necessary is not allowing people to trade freedom (responsibility and accountability) for security (privilege)

by not allowing them you are taking away their freedom to trade what they want

defeating your own point

They can attempt to sell, but no one should desire to buy. That is what should be made anathema

"should"

In attempting to sell, one doesn't value the freedom they have in the first place, so you haven't taken away something they never valued

anybody who wants power will desire to buy someone's freedom and give them security.

and men want power. because men are competitive. on so many different plains other that reproduction as well

again, defeats human nature

you just have to accept sometimes you have a golden age and eventually you have a dark age

The moment you attempt to trade your freedom for security, you deserve neither. Simply the attempt at such an exchange shifts one into a category that lacks the capacity to argue it's independent consciousness

even when human reproduction is solved by the artificial wombs

so what do you do with them

It defeats a proportion, but not the whole. At some point individuals have to turn on npcs

artificial wombs will mend the birthrate

but not the welfare state

in fact, it reinforces it

not if women can't vote

There's no value in saving a dying culture

It's dying for a reason

if women can't vote then the artificial womb isn't that useful

I disagree

yes there is, it still contains value in scientific developments, infrastructure etc. its worth attempting to salvage or even prevent its destruction all together

dude what, the artificial womb enables men to have the kids they want and raise them without the risk of women fucking it up

Exactly

Imagine Tesla in a free world... What advancements he would have made amongst a population that worshipfully respected achievement and individuality

and since its men doing the work and earning the women, they're be the majority able to afford artificial womb

dude, there's no way we're going to have it all

i see it as a matter of their rights going away

or the art womb coming

yes that would have been great bracholi