again, we're talking about practically, what can change. what system could be the most free is minarchist republic. but you will not be able to stop people from eventuallly fucking it up again

@Bracholi people can trade away freedom for less responsibility if they want, so long as their is a balance between what you are responsible for and what you have the rights to everything is fine

exactly

It's fundamentally deeper than this. National level anything is an actual plague on humanity

The reasons why slavery doesn’t work is because you pin responsibility lying on some one who has no rights

yeah we disagree there then

The reason why tyrant doesn’t work is because some has authority over other people without responsibility

Slavery doesn’t work because ... economics ...

Exactly ^

Balance is an important thing

Like say the governement took away your right to have a licence, your not allowed to drive or own a car anymore because you have to wear glasses to see or some shit

That’s bullshit ain’t it?

But how bad does it sound when you have your right to drive taken away but then they take away your responsibility to deal with your own transportation by giving you a free pass to ride on any buses or taxis for free

Quit crediting nations for so few individuals infinite contributions taken by force.

I’m spouting some balance stuff, a society may find problem with its different rule set on the balance of rights and responsibility, but if they are balanced things will be a lot better then any system when it is unbalanced

nations often fund research and provide infrastructure and materials. you can't just throw that away

these "tesla's" aren't some kind of god that should just be given anything. the person putting forward the resources and taking the risk deserves partial credit

*Resources forcibly taken from people and redistributed by the governing body of a nation do those things, you mean.

I just said, I’m talking balance I’m not talking about a way a society should be run, I’m talking about how balance of right and responsibility is important

plenty of research has also been conducted by completely agreement of the people

The next iteration of society shouldn't be balanced between takers and producers. It should be producers, and it should expel takers.

feels a bit too die hard to go "fuck all government"

Yeh takers that produce nothing in return should just be shot

that I can agree with

Bracholi in the house

well not shot, you shoot them when they turn to crime

Well, am I a producer, a question I ask myself constantly.

not just for being idiots. let them starve.

It's not about standing on an assembly line making widget number 2034234 to get a thot from a to b

I mean if you produce nothing, and then take from everyone else that basically is stealing

@Bracholi does someone pay you with money not stolen at gun point? If so, you are a producer.

Cuz you sure as hell ain’t trading anything if produce nothing

Welcome to every government @VenomousHawk86

Hehe

That's not the definition of a producer though

That's not harsh enough

govt, producers, lawyers, consultants, conceptual workers by defintion produce no tangible goods

Hey have you guys had anyone rooting over their foodstamps yet?

no

* rioting

trump funded govt for 3 weeks