They get it.

No.. I am referring to Nietzsche.. if the religious symbolism of freemasonry is a smokescreen to hide the truth of human nature (Male dominance and hypergamy) that would make controlling those natures in the slave class much easier

@felldie1496 I disagree with your nihilism as a whole and reject your statement.

@Xychotic That doesn't mean it is not true xd

It absolutely does.

We are not monkeys, we are apes.

There is no such thing as destiny. There is cause and effect and when we are red pilled, we can choose to change things along the way.

Thinking apes

Chimps think, too.

We're not that special in that regard.

We just minmaxed for Dexterity and Intelligence.

And it has paid off huge.

Also, nihilism is a rest stop in philosophy. You're not done with your journey if you stop there.

Well, that's your opinion and I respect it, but the fact that earth has passed for 12 extinction events, where five of them were massive, makes me think otherwise. Believe it or not, we're the small percentage of mammals who developed after that.

It's "Men Going Their Own Way" not "Men Stamping Their Feet And Bitching About Hopelessness"

It was six.

For crying out loud.

well I spend my time playing hentai games

instead of whining about how shit the society is

You also whine about SFM talking too much.

I'm not bitching about hopelessness, i'm just sayin' that you must know that there is nothing special in things, and that makes me value life more.

That’s a philosophical contradiction, by the by.

MGTOW is like the rite of passage that tribal societies used to put boys through to make the men. Where they would be cast out into the wild for a period of time and have to learn to survive and fend for themselves.. the western world has generally lost this and I think MGTOW is our instinct craving for that rite of passage

@wounded_wanderer Many also use the military for that.

@Xychotic that's also true.. in South Africa we don't really have that.. we used to in the past however

In that sense, it is the first step in MGTOW

Sometimes i think a society like old Sparta is what men need. Even if it sounds barbarian.

But i'm unsure if that would work.

Men need challenge. Not a barbaric society.

Sparta catches a lot of heat for very overblown characteristics. Really wasn’t that barbaric.

Well maybe not barbaric

But primitive.

To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day

Well, sorry, let me correct: it wasn’t barbaric *in context of other societies at the time*, but definitely compared to the Nerf and Fisher-Price world of today.

No way.

Sparta was a thing 2500 years ago.

They were "primitive" by definition.

But they were also highly insular and that caused them a great deal of problems when they opened up.

We’re not born to work 9-5 and wear seatbelts and drive around and email resumes. That’s just some weird fantasy land Disney shit that everyone is falling for

Boi.

I say, B-O-I!