Message from @hel

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2019-01-09 10:58:19 UTC  

@The-Free-Monk Thanks for actually adressing the question.
I agree with many of the cons with their idea and even have them noted in my word document on the subject.
The problem with your better strategy is that I don't think it works. Just telling a guy a fleshlight is better than the real thing, even if it is and even if it is with reasons (lower risks, focusing on his own enjoyment over hers) is just like telling a catholic there is no god and here is why etcetc...
The cheap asian pussy gives them experince contrary to what they have been told about the value of sex and it shows them that it really isint that much.
Now I do agree if the men are willing to believe you when you say that toys and dolls are better than the real thing then you can stop there. Just do that first and if it works great. I am not saying this is the only solution, but suggesting its viablity as another tool in the toolbox.
Not all men are the exact same with how they have to learn but this was very much my experience in dealing with the issue.

Ways to counteract some of the flaws:
1. 3 day rule - never take a women for more than 3 days to prevent oneitis.
2. When you find a girl to purchase take her to get tested. Not foolproof as infections have an incubation period but this does severly limit the odds.
3. Similarly an expensive prosititute has a much lower infection rate by being harder to afford, but expensive there is still cheap here.
4. The three day rule also prevents excuses of pregnancy. The vast majority of girls are on the pill just due to sheer self interest. Pregnant hookers are of lower value and they know this. Condoms break and they know this too.

2019-01-09 10:59:25 UTC  

Also the gap between an expensive toy and a doll is huge moneywise.
Most expensive toys are 200$, cheap dolls are $1500 There is not a real good selection between them to justify keeping moving up.

2019-01-09 11:00:28 UTC  

I don't exactly understand the point of your IQ comment. The agression makes sense if you are talking about the guy marrying her and getting divorce raped harder. But this is specifically about a short term experience.
I don't understand your alpha comment either. I am not telling anyone they need to be alpha. The best relation to this is that the guys who would need this advice will almost certainly be betas and if they listen to the alpha it will probably be just to get laid and simp harder. This is done better by just telling them to learn game. Which is a similar suggestion to this except it trades more time for less money.


Additional flaws not yet mentioned:
1. Substitue plantation - The guy gets addicted to the easy pussy and attention rather than learning to devalue it. So he basically lives his life working to keep going back again and again and substituting one girl with many. Basically he fails to learn that sex is not the end all be all of living.
2. The guy ignores the basic advice and contracts something or develops oneitis anyway.

2019-01-09 11:02:03 UTC  

Again this has risks, and in no way should be thought of as a silver bullet or even a first few solutions to try, but I think it does have a niche case viablility.

2019-01-09 11:06:59 UTC  

@Kragt good wisdom

2019-01-09 11:08:33 UTC  

@Rhunespire Oh, Thanks. I am glad for the feedback I got already too. It pointed out to me how I should be emphasising the safety advice and the last resort type status of this a lot more.

2019-01-09 17:26:07 UTC  

<@351980317617160194> is your ex a guy?

2019-01-09 17:26:12 UTC  

OH ShIT

2019-01-09 17:26:13 UTC  

are you the women

2019-01-09 17:26:21 UTC  

read the rules

2019-01-09 17:26:27 UTC  

My body is ready...

2019-01-09 17:26:52 UTC  

**THOT B GONE**

2019-01-09 17:37:52 UTC  

??

2019-01-09 17:38:50 UTC  

That was not the point of that arugment. You could make a fifi for near free.

2019-01-09 17:38:56 UTC  

Tf I don't abuse bears

2019-01-09 17:39:01 UTC  

Even if it's a teddy bear

2019-01-09 17:39:06 UTC  

I can tell.

2019-01-09 17:39:07 UTC  

You monster,

2019-01-09 17:39:11 UTC  

Buy a bag of walmart tube socks, shove it in a cup with 2 dish sponges, like $10

2019-01-09 17:39:23 UTC  

They were made to protect you against monsters as a kid, not show your cock in them

2019-01-09 17:39:34 UTC  

shove*

2019-01-09 17:39:45 UTC  

This is funny but please bring it to general text

2019-01-09 17:40:21 UTC  

I'm serious tho 😢

2019-01-09 17:41:10 UTC  

The point is the guys who do that and don't get laid a lot will assume that breathing girls are better. Their imagination is better than the actual reality of it. The point of the trip was to show them it's nothing special.
For an in depth explaination of this idea consider Stardusk's / ThinkingApe's 'religion of sex' video.

2019-01-09 17:42:29 UTC  

Oh, there's a lot of things women do for money

2019-01-09 17:42:32 UTC  

2 girls 1 cup.

2019-01-09 17:42:41 UTC  

But that's not the worst thing I/you seen prob

2019-01-09 17:43:01 UTC  

Guys this is questions chat

2019-01-09 17:43:04 UTC  

foh

2019-01-09 17:46:26 UTC  

The TFM show is on right now. I would rather be paying attention to it rather than dealing with someone trying to argue while not sober. Ill get back to this tonight and you can respond when you clear up.

2019-01-10 07:42:52 UTC  

@Kragt, the IQ comment was meant to highlight that low IQ women will drain you mentally and emotionally a lot more than a normal IQ western woman

2019-01-10 07:43:13 UTC  

i live in the 3rd world (pakistan) and women here expect to be taken care of like children

2019-01-10 07:43:34 UTC  

they are extremely dumb and incompetent and cant really do anything risky

2019-01-10 07:43:59 UTC  

if a women from a poor country is a prostitute, it means her IQ is probably close to 75

2019-01-10 07:44:02 UTC  

or even lower

2019-01-10 07:44:45 UTC  

they also resort to violence more often if they dont get their way all the time

2019-01-10 07:45:48 UTC  

so i was implying that interacting with these women in any way could be risky

2019-01-10 07:46:27 UTC  

also you need to stay away from her family as well, who will try to marry her off to you as desperately as possible

2019-01-10 07:46:53 UTC  

her dad and brother will probably beg you and pester you to marry her and take her to your country

2019-01-10 07:47:26 UTC  

but i dont know a lot about east asia which is probably what you are referring to

2019-01-10 07:48:17 UTC  

I can explain to you why not to deal with prostitutes in South Asian countries like India and Pakistan because i have a lot of info on it