I feel you BlaqShiep...but once a nut was had, have you never questioned your "values" beforehand? Felt ashamed of tolerating a conversation where your woman denigrates a coworker for shoe choice, or quickly closed a porn tab after finishing only to suddenly wish you hadn't spent so much time on it and quickly went back to doing something more rewarding?

In that Moment there was no fault... To behave like him now... Is a fault

Of course i have

values are dynamic, at least I fear so...

But you just said that there is but only one moment? How can you suggest that a self at one moment is bad after this one, yet all moments are one?

But you answer your own question

I felt shame

Therefore there must be correction

Its really that simple

So, shame determines which self is correct?

When there is no shame... Thete is no need to correct

One factor yes

Shame is a motivator

What about a woman's shame?

Fuck her

What about YOU... This MGTOW

Not how can we change her

How do you adapt?

What do YOU do?

So... do you pick and choose which shame is worth change and which is not?

Explain

Seven of Swords -- that's the fucked up thing isn't it? Shame comes AFTER -- for it to determine something....that's a curse, you'd never realize till after you betrayed your own standards eh?

Haha yeah boss

So, you have to betray your own standards in order to know them?

Life is a cruel teacher... Gives you the test first then the lesson

Seven

maybe you do -- it is trial and learn reality, language, shame, morals, values, etc.

You are over intellectualizing

Who are you now

How much ought I intellectualize?

There is no generalization that must be made

You are trying to come up with a steady philosophy... There is only now

If you feel shame... Seek to avoid shame

If you deel strong and triumphant then...

Seven -- just try out living in accordance with your own sensibilities. We cannot answer for you. You must live your own way.

Yet you couldn't distinguish which "now" is more worth the time than others... so why should "now" matter?

Its self evident, but not easy

Lets voice chat

There is not different nows

Only NOW

Who i was when i was 16... That now is not NOW