So what if people shun them? Why should they care?

You are over complicating now

Who cares what they experience... What do YOU value?

That is what is important

Not sure...

That is for you to find out

I'm not even sure if value is a thing that can be understood...

Here's a thought though--how many of us valued pussy. But come kenjataimu...as sure as the sun.

Dont over generalize an objective thing of value what we value is inherently subjective

I never valued "pussy"

I did value women...

Instinctually i assume...

And now you do not.. at that moment you valued women, and in this one, you do not... So which moment is supposed to be the one of value?

At the moment i did... That was that version of myself

I know who he was and i do not fault him

So, is there one self, many or none?

Who i am now... I must proceed in the correct fashion or i am blasphemous to my own valuss

There is one moment

If you cannot find a fault with that self, why change him?

Disregard self... Focus on now

The moment

But you just admitted that you needed a self in order to be in a particular moment...

I feel you BlaqShiep...but once a nut was had, have you never questioned your "values" beforehand? Felt ashamed of tolerating a conversation where your woman denigrates a coworker for shoe choice, or quickly closed a porn tab after finishing only to suddenly wish you hadn't spent so much time on it and quickly went back to doing something more rewarding?

In that Moment there was no fault... To behave like him now... Is a fault

Of course i have

values are dynamic, at least I fear so...

But you just said that there is but only one moment? How can you suggest that a self at one moment is bad after this one, yet all moments are one?

But you answer your own question

I felt shame

Therefore there must be correction

Its really that simple

So, shame determines which self is correct?

When there is no shame... Thete is no need to correct

One factor yes

Shame is a motivator

What about a woman's shame?

Fuck her

What about YOU... This MGTOW

Not how can we change her

How do you adapt?

What do YOU do?