My kid would be fucking badass

Shaunuss Look at the Ukraine, $150k/kid no strings right now

Symbioticentity I don't have any money for that right now unfortunately

It's dirt cheap compared to dealing with a western woman

But cheers for the tip, ukraine would have plenty of nice looking women... one of my key things would be to ensure good genetics too

I say it because of legal laws but eastern european woman you can have your pick of.. yeah not a bad DNA source for sure 😉

haha. I'd be after women whose fathers and brothers were engineers or scientists etc

no way to tell how smart a woman is, but if the men in her family as awesome, then genetics are good

also selecting for height

I had interviews with 5 when I went to give my sperm

I had a female friend come with me and pretend to be wife, most of them require that

symbioticentity that's really interesting, call you tell me more?

What do you want to know specifically?

I found Ukraine is cheapest and laws are friendliest for surrogacy

They require DNA test before you take kid back to USA as a citizen and your kid, mother has 0 rights

Did you actually do this?

Yes

You legend

I was on chat with Hermit in his roundtable before

I mentioned it then too

Where there is a will there is a way, and that was my way.

Having a kid is a real pain and a ton of work but it's satisfying.

I hired minimum wage woman to do most of the nonsense, this is why you need financial security first.

yeah I agree

not something to be done on a whim

I'm coming on late 30's now, I was financially independent at mid 30's, started MGTOW sort of lifestyle in early 20's. never gave a woman any cash at all.

Even told my mother I couldn't finance her bad choices

and last week she's overjoyed she gets benefits from my father she divorced when I was 6! lol

so my friend, keep to your discipline you'll be able to buy children without women and those kids will be yours, just like mine is.

I will teach him to smile and nod in school but to love freedom in life

Thanks for the encouragement. I get frustrated daily with the strong desire to break free from full time employment

making somebody else's dream come true

^

Shaunuss I understand your hatred. I am not over the period in my life where I had to work for others in a feminized BS environment

I'm lucky in that my work environment is a masculine environment

and when I say feminizes I'm talking about the men.

engineering, we're all a bunch of men and we swear and talk shit

my boss rides motorbikes etc, so at least that side of it doesn't suck

Thank goodness, I was dealing with guys who cried about dry skin and got a moisturizer and group bought fragrances to see which was best.

It's good as far as jobs go, but it's still a job

what the hell, hahahah I'd be laughing at that