@Chained Ant1vst how is it? I want it but idk if i should wait since I'm still playing spiderman and red dead comes out soon

If i make a po box would anyone send me shit to open in a video while responding to mgtow mail

id send you stuff.

Look i like principles as much as the next guy

But sometimes you have to accept extremely bad outcomes for the enemy

I am not going to play along with that

i agree. dont let your principles lose you the battle to an enemy that has none

he's not talking about that

he's talking about going too far, atrocities type shit

I am saying raping and torture will become quite common in war time

it ALWAYS happens

maybe so, but I'm not taking any part of it

and I'll stop anyone I see doing it

its fucking happening right now where i live for christs sake

@Dick White yea i was gonna say but dont let cruelty become normal because then you turn the enemy into martyrs

I dont like it but i am not gonna do anything about it either

the ends do not justify the means

they never do

if you don't understand that, I can't help you

I mean i know some guys here in Pakistan who have done child marriages, they make me sick but still you cant just up and kill them

That's Pakistan

yep

This is America

not my circus, not my monkey

After the collapse what do you think the US is gonna look like?

I'm living in the limited run HBO miniseries "The Trump Years"\

i imagine it will be worse since you are so dependant on tech

yadda yadda

@The-Free-Monk my guess would be sorta like venezuela. probably a bit better i think. but that depends on when the collapse happens and the circumstances surrounding it

I think it's hilarious you think the left has the balls to actually get into a shooting fight with people that have them hopeless, helplessly, hilariously outgunned

I just want MGTOW to truly understand how horrible things can get under a War + Collapse scenario

Mentally you have to be prepared for the worst

we do understand that. anybody who is paying attention does

yes

@Dick White well when you think with your emotions and have no idea how reality works anything can happen

in your head that is

MGTOW has a lot of Vets, believe me: we all understand, very clearly

well if those dribble lips think they stand a chance I give them leave and will even let them take the first swing

but your right. they will fold like a cheap house of cards

TFM = You can die a hero or live long enough to become a villian

Honestly i would rather pretend to be a hero as long as possible