as someone said earlier "you cannot save someone else, you can only save yourself" or smth likme that

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Trying to convince a dude to change his mind is like talking to a brick wall. Men are headstrong, even at rock bottom.

Especially if they aren't ready to challenge their instinct

Don’t even lead him to water, simply point to where it should be. He can do the rest. And if not who cares. Natural selection. He has to find his own way.

If he’s thirsty enough, he’ll put one foot in front of the other. By the time he takes the first step, you should be well on your way. You have your own journey to follow.

Guys.... I've been thinking.... Do you think that Michael Jackson was a mgtow?

what makes you think he was?

His fatherhood instinct.

I remember a story about MJ where girls wanted to talk to him and he shunned them away. 💯

He did go with a surrogate when he wanted kids...so maybe

But dont get me wrong, I really believe that he had an excentric behavior

It's still an interesting thought.

He was ahead of his time.

he had aspects that are featured in mgtow but it's unlikely that he was a full on mgtow

He may have known a wife wouldn't appreciate his taste in decor, or wanting to hold on to aspects of playful childhood

My guess is he just had his own personal reasons

Close enough in my book

+1

He was robbed of his childhood, he was relentlessly trying to make up for it. Women aren’t a factor until you hit puberty. He was stuck as Jackson 5 MJ mentally.

Damn shame.

Yeah, that rings true as well, messed up all around

Ah.... The celebrity child curse

Then, in that case, he doesn't fit the mgtow criteria. It was more like the consequences of his curse

I’d say he was definitely going his own way. No one really takes his relationships seriously.

It was for show because of the child accusations.

The closest one was Lisa Presley and I think they were more like friends.

He certainly didn't care about what people thought of him, compared to the average man

he definately was a **smooth crminial** amirite?

his music was such a **thriller** to listen to

"being a mom today is impossible" scene from "Bad Moms" ... being a Mom is so heroic #goals

moms do nothing and they do nobody

so why get married?

well. maybe thats not true. moms will do tyrone

and chad

this whole film is about how being a mom is such a hardship and you have to be a saint to get your kids to 18

anyway. imma just sit in peasant square for a bit

see what happens

That movie triggered me when they implied fathers were worthless

Because romance books, soap operas and MSM fuel the suply of manginas/simps/cucks/soyboys/bluepillers?

yeah lol, they want equal rights but not equal responsibilities