Message from @Kragt

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2018-11-15 00:29:05 UTC  

Fucking phone man

2018-11-15 00:29:24 UTC  

@Kragt ok thanks

2018-11-15 00:30:30 UTC  

Better say ur sorry quick. I'm about to start work

2018-11-15 00:30:30 UTC  

@JDB The greatest joy in my life is feeding my curiosity. To learn. But when I die I might as well have spent all that time mastrubating. Mentoring allows my constant learning to bear fruit beyond myself.

2018-11-15 00:30:37 UTC  

@shadowlessnexus Then convince me of ahris greatness

2018-11-15 00:30:59 UTC  

Aight then. Enjoy being super trap chain for like 3 hours

2018-11-15 00:31:10 UTC  

Chan.... Phones man

2018-11-15 00:31:16 UTC  

@Kragt what age group do you pref to mentor

2018-11-15 00:31:39 UTC  

i wouldnt be able to teach not here anywasys

2018-11-15 00:31:49 UTC  

why not?

2018-11-15 00:31:57 UTC  

Sweden @JDB

2018-11-15 00:32:08 UTC  

what's wrong with sweden?

2018-11-15 00:32:18 UTC  

everything

2018-11-15 00:32:22 UTC  

lol 😦

2018-11-15 00:32:33 UTC  

Aight I'm about to start work. Funds over

2018-11-15 00:32:40 UTC  

Fun... Fucking a phone

2018-11-15 00:32:41 UTC  

exept the history but that wont help now

2018-11-15 00:33:01 UTC  

@shadowlessnexus are you fucking a phone ?

2018-11-15 00:33:07 UTC  

I don't know yet. I suspect 18-23 year olds. But I will be taking a year to work with elementary students next year. Like I just said, part of the process is to get your feet wet, try things and learn what you like and do not like.

2018-11-15 00:33:57 UTC  

thanks for the advice man

2018-11-15 00:34:51 UTC  

Yupyup, if you get stuck on the learning and I am online feel free to shoot me a message. I might be able to explain it, or not.

2018-11-15 00:35:39 UTC  

what do you want to teach ?

2018-11-15 00:35:59 UTC  

does robert greene say that the greatest fulfillent come from mastery? do u agree with that

2018-11-15 00:36:07 UTC  

super-trap-chan was that aimed at me?

2018-11-15 00:36:09 UTC  
2018-11-15 00:36:57 UTC  

@Kragt yea

2018-11-15 00:37:13 UTC  

@JDB I do not know robert greene but I do agree mastery has its intrinsic rewards.

2018-11-15 00:37:16 UTC  

MY NICK IS FIXED

2018-11-15 00:38:12 UTC  

@legendpinnen I do not know. Probably philosophy, but my problem is I study everything so I will want to teach everything. So a better answer may very well be I want to teach what the student wants to learn.

2018-11-15 00:40:05 UTC  

uno how you said that being able to pass on information/wisdom to someone by being a mentor is why we want to become mentors - doesn't that reflect how we fear being forgotten and replaced by the next generation? aren't we, in a sense, being selfish and using someone else to pass on what we believe to be important?

2018-11-15 00:40:49 UTC  

if we do what we do for ourselves, why do we care what the next generation does?

2018-11-15 00:43:53 UTC  

I am not sure that applies in my case. It is not about me. It is about humanity as a whole. The people I mentor can do whatever they want or don't want. I am just here for when they need it.
That is the catch of being a mentor/teacher. You need students, and apart from having children you cannot force people to be your student. They have to want to learn from you or else you are both just banging your heads against a wall.

2018-11-15 00:44:51 UTC  

So if you want to be a good teacher you need to want to be a good teacher (AKA you have to put in the hours and work to develop your skills, knowledge, communication etc...) and you have to have students.

2018-11-15 00:46:25 UTC  

i agree with everything you're saying but, just to play devil's advocate : if it's not about you then why do you care?

2018-11-15 00:47:15 UTC  

True I agree with that @Kragt

2018-11-15 00:49:48 UTC  

Well two answers. 1. I don't, that is to say if no one wanted to learn from me then nothing I do would matter.
2. If the student wants to learn then I should pass on my knowledge as it was passed on to me so that the chain can continue. The books I learn from, the videos I watch, the tutorials I follow were all given to me by people who learned like I did or through direct discovery. They give to me and so I give to those who come after me. Without this the knowledge dies and the benefits it carries dies with it.

2018-11-15 00:52:16 UTC  

addressing your second answer: why 'should' you pass on your knowledge? why would it be good for the chain to continue? what if without your mentorship the kid would actually turn out 'better', whatever that means?

2018-11-15 01:02:33 UTC  

So as far as should, and good are concerned these are moral judgements. There are two ways to approach this. Religious and Atheistic. For religion it is about doing what your diety says, and while I have my own personal views on how and why relgions work for this argument passing on knowledge is a reguirement for religions.
For the atheist or areligious man then morality comes down to him. For me this follows a line of thought that anything not perpetuated fails to exist and that which reproduces best lives. If my knowledge was useful in any way then its usefulness would justify its perpetuation. Or at least its rediscovery (see MGTOW ideas for example.)
The main point of this second argument is that for making a moral judgement there is no rule or measure except that which you give it. So I choose a set thing as the highest good and live towards that. In my case I have settled on helping humanity to expand beyond earth. Anything beyond this enters cosmic nihilism and anything before this is overwritten by the fact that if it does not fit into this goal then it will cease to exist.
This goal is not without it's flaws (if for example humanity encountered intelligent alien life my entire value system would fall apart instantly) but for right now it works well for me for making moral judgements in relation to how they fit into this goal.

2018-11-15 01:03:16 UTC  

I hope that answers your question. ^_^;;

2018-11-15 01:06:22 UTC  

Oh and for the third question. If the kid wanted to learn what I had to teach, then one of two outcomes will happen. He will be better off by gaining easier knowledge while I teach him and this knowledge will improve his life. Or if the knowledge will worsen his life he will learn from the lessons of pain and suffering, but he will learn them faster with a teacher than without.
The only way I can do harm is if my teaching would hinder his learning. In which case I am obviously not the teacher for that student.

2018-11-15 01:07:11 UTC  

"there is no rule or measure except that which you give it" ty for this - this is great