Well who died and made you king KD?

It's about going your OWN way

@KingGiraffasaur right?

if that includes self improvement then what's the issue?

If that way includes self-improvement which it tends to do, so be it

no you're injecting your opinion as fact

We aren't

Okay hold up

Its encouraged

You haven't been on the /r/TheRedpill have you? Lol.

"I don't see other communities obsessing over self improvement."

Right it's like I hear the shaming language about to come out

Red Man Group?

Try going over to /r/GetMotivated

Rich Cooper for one

Well, reddit is shit so yeah, but my point still holds.

No co-habitation.
No marriage.
Everything *else* is permitted.

LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE IS PERMITTED

I don't get what your point is, even if people have some defects, what's wrong with people wanting to work on it?

I look away for a min and the chat becomes 🔥 👀

@KingGiraffasaur see the thing is even when I say self improvement it is on my own terms, if a man realizes how dumb it is to marry or cohabitate, THAT is self improvement to me

I just joined after 2 years of watching mgtow videos

agreed reaper

Telling? @KD

and KD, MGTOW IS about self improvement, one way or another

Why don't we get married?

Why don't we cohabitate?

lol

It's primarily a response to how things are in the current year, that's all it is.

Because it's a raw deal, basically, right?

@KingGiraffasaur agreed because a red pill man > blue pill mangina

mgtow makeup

A lot of guys focus on the self improvement aspects is that, guys need to find something to do with their lives.

i have to say, your making a lot of sense @KD can i ask what MGTOW means to you?

*several people are typing*

So if we are avoiding marriage and cohabitation, that would imply that we are trying not to REGRESS

Because if you get married, divorce, and lose half your money, that is regression

Self improvement part the way I see it is just a consequence of going their own, not a part of it by itself, I guess that's what he's getting at.

@KD learning to defend yourself IS a form of improvement, this is all symantics now

Unless you're telling me that being MGTOW is all about being content with mediocrity, the only other option is to PROGRESS

is there a debate VC?