Even BP men really just want sex, but they pretend it isn't about sex

Yeh, like I remember tfm once said feminism is a ploy to extract men’s money through the government so they don’t have to be attractive, a pleasant person, or respect men to get what they want from them (not his exact words$

That sounds insane

idk what to make of that if that's true

but true...

Well feminism did that, through the welfare system

I know institutions and systems love feminism. Makes sense actually

And letting girls get jobs with a million different kinds of paid leave

And the whole metop thing just results in women collecting money through lawsuits

Really all the men are disposable commodities only to keep the system in place. Feminism, and women are an almost failproof tool as long as men keep chasing women

it's a hypergamy/dominance war based on the 3 g's, 3f's, n 3s's....

Yeh which is why mgtow is a threat to feminism

But even MGTOWs aren't competely safe though because of metoo shit. Metoo will probably backfire on women though

Men won't want to mentor women, etc

Gynecentrism only works in. Species where females are biologically on par (like in birds) or stronger then the males (spiders), but humans are not that, men are superior biologically to girls,
So it has to be forced by something higher then men, and feminism@did that through the government

And they can subject men to the tools they’ve created unless we just don’t walk into their trap and stand over here away from them in mgtow

What. Society was always gynocentristic in nature. Maybe in different scales, but always.

No, up until the suffragettes we were patriarchal

Dude.

Gynocentrism is not matriarchy.

every civ went down to a gynocentric cycle regardless of gov or culture type....

In the older times women were controlled by men and viewed as commodities

This was in order for the men to create warriors to protect their countries

This was like shield and sword days

Gynocentrism is like covert form of matriarchy

Yet at the same it's not really a matriarchy

no... it is simply the natural behavioural push of female nature...

Even in primitive tribes, men would hunt and fend off predators to protect the women who would be pregnant basically all the time meaning they couldn’t protect themselves and the women would provide the resource of baby making

@VenomousHawk86 Women had value, but it was for reproduction. The strong men in those tribes had to protect them because women were a valuable resource

Genocentrism is the nature of both women and even more importantly even men to care more about women's safety and well being. This has been true for all throug human history. And there are somewhat reasons for that.
Basically, there you go @VenomousHawk86 as you just said yourself. So the claim we have become gynocentristic, because of feminism is kind of silly.

Well that's how they saw them.

But that doesn't necessarily mean they were exempt from love hormones either

they saw them as a valuable possession worth caring for and defending... just like territory and social position

There you go

Pretty much that. Today women have more power than men and abuse it

that always happens towards the end of a civs cycle

Nothing wrong with power, but it needs to be used responsibly. Freedom needs to be used responsibly as well, so when all you guys are rich, be wise with your freedom

@ziyauren Are you referring to US, or any first world country?

I am referring to every civiliation that has ever existed,... human that is

Because the US is one of the youngest countries. I know that years ago Greece went through some shit and crashed. They say Greece got too soft before they crashed

the us is jus a part of western civ