we can only select of multiple fertilised eggs. Thats not genetic engineering

China genetically engineered a kid.

Ah well.

Anyway your point on genetic engineering is moot anyway. Humans have been doing it for thousands and thousands of years

To plants to many animals...

well not exactly. At best we irradiated them to increase mutation and selected the best of the random sample

thats not editing any genes directly

How is it any different in principle?

Selecting the cutest wolf to live with people, selecting the best crops and breeding them

Well if you just throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks, then some of the result will be discarded

This is just that. But precise

And since peters thinks a fetus must be protected from the earliest state that is relevant

the methods i know about that are pretty much done is just fertilising multiple eggs and only using one of them. Thus killing some fertilised eggs

also. another thing. women genetically engineer men to. they all want the tallest guy, with the most muscles, and blah blah blah

but direct edititng makes that unneccessary

we are already doing it

thats my stance 🤷

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@Thijs Peters by the way, how is a fertilised egg any more valuable than sperm or an egg cell? Its all human life

They break it down

A fertilized egg is a human being on it's own.

okay

It has a complete set of DNA and multiplies.

It is a live human being.

we can agree on that. i dont disagree there

so is the sperm

abortion is disgusting and wrong. especially since birth control exists in no less than 20 forms

Sperm isn't a human being. It only has 50% of the required material.

Abortion is wrong.

And illogical.

Look at Dutch law.

God DAMNED RIGHT

You can abort a child until 24 weeks.

we arent arguing on abortion tho

Because before that we do not consider it a child.

well one thing i have to say

But if a child dies before being born you can have it registered as a child that was born dead.

Even before 24 weeks.

im not anti abortion, HOWEVER we need to bring consistency into the law

So you can kill your child, because it is not a child. And then have it put in the register as a child, because it is a child.

Theree are places where you would get charged with double homicide if you ran over a pregnant woman on her way to the abortion clinic