they hate the system as much as we do but i think there is too much social pressure on them to conform and not speak out much

@The-Free-Monk Good thought.

I don't hate women or have bitterness to them. I simply seek to understand them and I think you're right.

My aunt was complaining the other day about how she gets up at 8 am goes to the clinic and returns back at 10 pm to watch her kids playing games and not interacting with her at all

They dug their own communist sponsored grave and want to get out, but they can't. Interesting. I believe however, some women see the problems of the system but are to brainwashed to know that It (the system) causes those problems.

The system clearly is not making women happy at all. They are more depressed and miserable than ever it seems

Lol that's so sad.

Yeah man

They just need the mythical pimp hand

My sister and I used to talk a lot and shared hobbies but now that she is in medical school i barely ever see her

Shame, is she doing well atleast?

Her success would make it worth it

yeah she is top of her class but she only does it for money

That will not last long.

Money is nice

@The-Free-Monk It's because women are not men. True equality will lead to more depression and outrage. The issue is most women want the state to fix it for them.

but if theres no love for the job, then its likely she may stop

there is a lot of pressure and stress put on women if you think about it

How so?

It's men or the state keeping them down. The state has replaced fathers and have become paternal to most women. 70+% of welfare is given to women.

not only do they have to look good physically, they have to out perform men and each other in academics and jobs etc

According to feminism, they have to be men.

Yes.

I agree with that.

However, the burden of performance is also placed on men to be utilities.

its also true raising kids is more expensive than ever.

Daycare costs most working women half thier salary

Yes

Taxes are higher.

Its true to an extent, but a female can always go back to traditionalism and have a simp take care of her. So if she is ever tired of being a strong independent wahmen, she can get a simp.

Once the state realized two income households could work, they loved it.

my mom was a top doctor out of med school, she had to pay half of her montly salary to a Daycare

@Punished Korgoth Yes. An option men don't have and even if they did - they'd be the ones providing anyways.

@The-Free-Monk That's the price you pay for having kids and a career.

no wonder they dont want kids

i am anti-natalist myself anyway

i guess most MGTOW Monks are

Yeah, most males hate being under the control of someone else. We are hard wired to go out and collect our own resources and be individuals. Women on the other hand are the unholy union between a child and a borg.

What is anti-natalist?

someone who opposes the idea of having offspring ethically

Women have replaced the "patriarchy" with "state."