I was deluded into wanting a family but now the most I will have are just physical relationships. If she alludes to marriage or kids dump her

yeah but we're humans and we can attach to some girls emotionally and create lies to ourselves

@alessandro3ds yea they won't let you have a vasectomy for a while man.

I have thought about a vasectomy but I have not had anything but casual relationships since I went mgtow so I always use condoms

@AnimeNovice did u get the vasectomy in anticipation of like more medium to long term relationships or "just in case"?

Sup

Well at the time I was still open to dating so I'll have to say both

Now it's "just in case", but that's a long shot since I've been in monk mode for about a year

Fair enough

i don't see myself being in monk mode for a whole year

Yea I've been mgtow for about 7 years and every time I step back into the meat market it's a shorter stint, the game is contantly getting shittier

Coming February 2019 I will have been monk for a year

@alessandro3ds Yeah that is what I am thinking too. I've only been monk for about a full month now and I am already feeling weird.

Well....you're 16 buddy lmao. You're hormones are probably raging, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future @alessandro3ds. I'm 37. In fantastic shape, but still...my sex drive is diminished somewhat. And actually, I've just been through the ringer with women too many times so I won't blame on my sex drive cuz I can still fuck all day.

@AnimeNovice im 33 and I know what you mean I have had a bit of reduction in sex drive but I honestly wish it were more

@AnimeNovice you're right I haven't had enough meat to get on monk mode

What exactly happens when you’re a virgin and reach decline?

I am a virgin but im not sure how to answer that. All I know is that i never felt like dating or fucking in high school cuz i suffered from oneitis @Change Order

@Change Order idk how old are you ?

I honestly wouldn't tell you to go monk mode so young because you'll have many regrets @alessandro3ds. However......is it worth potentially losing everything, including your freedom and possibly your life, over some pussy? Only you can answer that question in each individual situation.

@Change Order and nice guy syndrome

like what kind of regrets?

@AnimeNovice yeah I think about that all the time and many times i rejected sex just to not fuck up my life ,at the times I had regret but now it fells better

I'm not sure I would have had the will to be mgtow at 16 but I would have loved to have the knowledge

I was MGTOW at 16

Right before turning 17

@shadowlessnexus I do think each man has to at least date a little or gain some experience. Just my opinion. It doesn't mean you have to chase the pussy but if a girl is into you it would be useful to learn part of the game.

🤷 i see no point

i know how to talk to people. im good

MGTOW isn't rejecting sex but seeing the risks, weighing them and never marrying/cohabitating.

right. exactly. what is worth it is up to every man

i dont see it being worth it

I was a religious nut at 16 and would've rejected the philosophy categorically. So to be that young and already on this path....you're doing well @alessandro3ds

@shadowlessnexus For sure but at 16 it would be good to at least learn the lessons early. Gaining a little experience.

idk if i'm "MGTOW" I still have girls

@machtyn I agree first hand knowledge is a powerful confirmation when it comes to female nature, but if you are very analytical and empathetic it may be possible to get a good grasp

are you married?

I’ve felt like it’s bizarre for me to date considering my personality and circumstances and women are undesirable this era

@alessandro3ds MGTOW is "never marry or cohabitate." I'd add "don't knock up a woman."

@Reaper Absolutely.

basically no simping. that means no marriage no cohabiation. no letting women control your life