@Punished Korgoth i totally agree, religions in general, are weird.

The smarter ones certainly aren't wrong in their criticism

@Reaper It can be proven just look at how certain dogs are bred. They are forced to evolve in a certain way. Not to mention atheists dont just pull anything out of their ass. They use science to prove their points.

But who's to say

@The Pathfinder Ω when you say that you also declare that everything we see can reasonably be boiled down to chance, that's a bit much for me

Chance and circumstance?

And the thing is. It's not even hard to debate a Christian into the ground. A lot of atheist somehow manage to fuck it up

I see that as viable.

@Punished Korgoth that is irrefutable, do you know what's not? One species transitioning to another

All dogs are related to dogs there is no proof that a reptile can become a bird

I've debated christianity into dust with religious people without any preparation

It's super easy

But some atheist manage to fuck it up

Transitional species are a myth and are completely illogical

@AllThingsExpendable Are you a Christian MGTOW?

@Reaper The DNA of birds are a match to that of certain dinos

@Reaper That is possible. Life transitioned from prokaryotes to eukaryotes. and we evolved from being a creature of the sea to being a land animal.

It is possible given the right conditions

it takes a long though

@agogeghost Not MGTOW. Just...an Atheist Catholic.

Dinos ≠ Reptiles

its not magic

@AllThingsExpendable Wait. What?

@Punished Korgothpossible and provable are different things

If it's not provable it's not science

@AllThingsExpendable Interesting. Can you elaborate on the label.

@AllThingsExpendable So you are a practicing Catholic (an organized religion) but you're an atheist?

@agogeghost I don't believe in God, but I do put my faith in the practice, because I find it important.

Ah.

I understand that.

What specific practices do you value?

Evolution may be slow but by now its had billions of years to do its magic

So you do it as a means to keep yourself in line...interesting...

You gain a sense of moral agency from religion without buying into the personal relationship with a god?

@Reaper Nothing in science is really concrete. Science evolves.

That's the goal of religion after all. Moral agency.

You don't need religion to be a moral person that's a load of shit

@agogeghost Exactly. It's just a form of moral upkeep.

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon why do apes still exist if random mutation though environmental forces cause them to transition to humans??

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon Thats true

@AllThingsExpendable What are you afraid will happen if you don't have a moral structure?