pretty cool

or is it? *plays vsauce music*

@Punished Korgoth positive mutations are a myth

@AllThingsExpendable I agree about religion being a good moral agency for most people. It does keep people in line but it also creates other forms of evil and destruction (catholic boys being raped/abused).

@AllThingsExpendable Do you still want to marry knowing all the risks?

@Punished Korgoth I don't watch vsauce, too mainstream

It has no SJW crap

And if it did

i would filter it out

A positive mution is like scrambling the code on a video game and getting a better game, I mean maybe it's possible, but....

@agogeghost There are flaws in most things. And yes, I still want to marry. I actually don't subscribe to MGTOW.

@AllThingsExpendable I respect that. I haven't had sex and have kept myself pure in many ways with my gf but she did give me a bj and it was amazing.

Thats why natural selection exists

it gets rid of bad mutations leaving only the positives

@Punished Korgoth I just naturally tend to stay away from anything with a huge following regardless

@AllThingsExpendable What do you agree with MGTOW on?

@AllThingsExpendable What should all these men going MGTOW do instead?

@agogeghost Just that women have many advantages that disadvantage men. How to solve that problem, I don't think means going away from women and seeking, essentially, a decadent lifestyle.

Do you define decadence by pure selfishness?

@Punished Korgoth nat ural selection is a quality control process not a creative one, if you do quality control on car parts no matter how good a Job you do you will never get a plane

@AllThingsExpendable I discovered Ayn Rand, which kicked off me learning about libertarianism and mgtow/red pill. Have you ever read her philosophy?

It would be much better if mgtows actually came together on a serious effort to survive the collapse in my opinion

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon Is that a mental defence? Your subconicous doesnt want to be brainwashed so it naturally stays away from mainstream crap

That's what I think mgtows should be doing

@agogeghost Decadence to me implies many things, but here would be self-indulgence. There is responsibility in a family that contains a man. Without it, the probability of becoming decadent is there, which starts with self-indulgence - porn being a major factor.

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon From my understanding, MGTOW is simply a philosophy, like Objectivism, to be used for each INDIVIDUAL man. His authority alone is how he lives his life. It's not a movement like feminism.

@Reaper True. So it works in conjunction with positive mutation. Making it a creative one.

@Punished Korgoth well yeah. My independence is probably the best thing I've had consistently in life

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon as much as I like that idea, it'd necessarily open you up to doxxing which I would like to avoid

@agogeghost Although I considered myself Libertarian, I haven't actually read Ayn Rand. I plan on it, but I'm probably not a libertarian anymore.

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon Your an independant black wo...man

@Punished Korgoth you have to realize that even if true the probability of those things working together by chance is astronomical

What I think mgtows should be doing isn't even a movement. It's just a serious effort to preserve ourselves through a disaster

@AllThingsExpendable I do agree with you. Without service to a family, what will a single man do? He will do whatever he pleases. But... what is so wrong with that? If your goal is to control these men, I see your point. Otherwise, as long as men are respectful and follow the non aggression principle, why do you care?

@AllThingsExpendable What are you now, politically?

^

@Reaper Thats true, but it is still possible. and the universe is so big that almost anything can be possible

Because I don't want to just benefit myself from mgtow. I want the ideology to endure

especially on the qauntum level

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon It would be benifitial if that happened, the base point is people with similar values tend to migrate towards one another, that is how commuties of old formed.

@agogeghost Yeah, I guess my goal is to control these men, which is why I'm not a Libertarian anymore. Probably more of a Paleo-conservative. I believe individualism can only be sustained under a strong collective. MGTOW to me is a subversive element against the collective of men. Obviously, they have valid reasons, but solutions that aren't really solutions.