since politicians can easily please dumb cows

The politicians aren't the problem @Punished Korgoth

They are elected by the people

@agogeghost but this is my point human nature has not taken us to this point alone, we have allowed the most corrupt to take power and they ( understanding human nature better than us) have used it against us with sadistic precision

Corrupt politicians are a symptom of a stupid population

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon Yeah but I was just saying how easy it is for them to please the populace. but yeah women are the problem. But at the same time its mens fault for not keeping the coveted pimp hand strong

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon but what if the ppl are "educated" to be stupid?

@AllThingsExpendable fair enough. I just see literally no benefit in women other than procreation and childbearing/caring so I don't see why I should sacrifice half (if I'm lucky) of everything I've built just for that

Was their democracy even real then?

I think all women and most men are at fault

Only about 20% of men are innocent here

^

Most likely less

Yeah

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon I blame men almost entirely, woman only get away with what men allow

The simps have the gun LOADED. Yet they will not use it. We mgtow do have the gun but it is not loaded. Yet we are willing to use it.

feelsbadman

@atomic I think women are more important than that. I would have to default to a sort of Christian or religious argument, that the communion of men and women realizes a true individual nature. A bond that's mean't to be fulfilling, though imperfect.

@Reaper Yes, I am currently reading "Tragedy and Hope" and "The Creature from Jekyll Island." I won't say I believe any of it and I won't be buying gold/silver anytime soon but I do agree it has some interesting possibilities.

like tfm says if men had the balls to take woman's rights they wouldn't do shit but change their panties from the collective pussy dripping

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon You can't truly blame men in the fact, choices were made generations bfore any of us were alive. These choice are so heavily enforced by the police state now that we live under a despotic system, that if we try to escape, we die or become slaves to the state.

@agogeghost yes bro

Yeah what I've learned about women is. No matter what they say or believe they biologically can't fix anything on their own, it's a biological reason alone for them. Isn't their fault. Still you should spank them for it

@Reaper Lol yeah

Just one slap

would be enough

one small pimp hand for man, one giant pimp hand for mankind

^

They would collectively sigh a relief that real men were back

@AllThingsExpendable Do you agree women are hypergamous and that most will would rather have the top 20% and make the below 80% pay for it? This is my fundamental issue with religious views on marriage... women mostly aren't pair bonding until AFTER they had their fill of top 20% sex. At which point, I have no interest. However, 3 of my friends all got married at age 19. This is another reason I am leaving... my community is pushing me out essentially.

''Oh save us!''

@agogeghostmost religions had a father pick the husband and the community shame would keep the hypergamy in line

IF you got married and stayed married to one woman from age 19 to 90... I do AGREE that is beautiful and unique. However, it really depends on a lot.

@Reaper Yes, I live in that community currently.

Her father has called me three times today. I broke up with her last night.

Oof

@agogeghost I will go out on a limb and say that is impossible today unless some extreme factors are at play

@agogeghost Good

Ignore her daddy

and her

you gave her father your number? and you broke up with her? yikes